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The USA did not take Iran. They essentially shot off fireworks, killed the figure head and then got check mated.

by jasondigitized 5mo ago

lukan 5mo ago
More like a draw it seems.
- esseph 5mo ago
  Definitely not. Iran did billions in damage across the middle east, put a major dent in munitions stockpiles, and there is effectively no military way to shut down all of Iran and protect shipping. Too many drones, too many ballistic missiles, and it only takes one. This is basically like an insurgency on a macro level, where small and cheap weapons threaten very large very expensive targets.
  - chrisco255 5mo ago
    Iran is completely blockaded right now: https://mynews4.com/news/nation-world/centcom-naval-blockade-of-iran-67-commercial-ships-redirected-15-humanitarian-passed-war-trump-troops-aircraft-oil-ceasefire https://mynews4.com/news/nation-world/centcom-naval-blockade... The drones are useless if you dont have targeting systems which were taken offline by F35s 2 months ago.
    - esseph 5mo ago
      Blocking Iran is going to do more damage to the world than it will do to Iran. What targeting systems are you talking about? You can use optical targeting with a raspberry PI in the drone itself, pre programmed. Nothing for an F-35 to take out. The EU is running out of jet fuel. 20-30% of the hydrogen needed for chip fab comes through the straight. Fertilizer for food comes through the straight, and planting season has already begun. This was a political and economic disaster.
  - tick_tock_tick 5mo ago
    So what Iran's basically fucked and the USA just gets an economic boost from military spending?
bluGill 5mo ago
Taking wasn't the goal. I don't understand the goal, but it is clear that taking Iran wasn't.
strictnein 5mo ago
> "They essentially shot off fireworks, killed the figure head and then got check mated" I mean, that's certainly a take. A wholly inaccurate one, but it's a take. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_officials_killed_during_the_2026_Iran_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_officials_kill...
chrisco255 5mo ago
The U.S. isnt checkmated, the U.S. is enforcing a naval blockade against Iran and their oil based economy is in a free fall with rapid inflation. The U.S. is experiencing slightly higher gas prices but economy is still humming. Meanwhile the U.S. military has not exhausted all of its options while Iran has none.
- Danox 5mo ago
  The US is indeed checkmated like Afghanistan like Iraq and like Vietnam checkmated spinning your wheels spending money wasting money wasting time and wasting resources, checkmate. With the addition of most countries now looking for other trade partners the Art of the no deal…
- amanaplanacanal 5mo ago
  What would you consider a "win" condition here? I have no idea what the American administration is looking for as a win.
- wiseowise 5mo ago
  > The U.S. isnt checkmated, the U.S. is enforcing a naval blockade against Iran and their oil based economy is in a free fall with rapid inflation. That's not much of an achievement for the first military in the world. That's like second military in the world struggling to take a village in Donbas region for 4 years.

The USA did not take Iran. They essentially shot off fireworks, killed the figure head and then got check mated.

lukan 5mo ago

More like a draw it seems.

esseph 5mo ago
Definitely not. Iran did billions in damage across the middle east, put a major dent in munitions stockpiles, and there is effectively no military way to shut down all of Iran and protect shipping. Too many drones, too many ballistic missiles, and it only takes one. This is basically like an insurgency on a macro level, where small and cheap weapons threaten very large very expensive targets.
- chrisco255 5mo ago
  Iran is completely blockaded right now: https://mynews4.com/news/nation-world/centcom-naval-blockade-of-iran-67-commercial-ships-redirected-15-humanitarian-passed-war-trump-troops-aircraft-oil-ceasefire https://mynews4.com/news/nation-world/centcom-naval-blockade... The drones are useless if you dont have targeting systems which were taken offline by F35s 2 months ago.
  - esseph 5mo ago
    Blocking Iran is going to do more damage to the world than it will do to Iran. What targeting systems are you talking about? You can use optical targeting with a raspberry PI in the drone itself, pre programmed. Nothing for an F-35 to take out. The EU is running out of jet fuel. 20-30% of the hydrogen needed for chip fab comes through the straight. Fertilizer for food comes through the straight, and planting season has already begun. This was a political and economic disaster.
- tick_tock_tick 5mo ago
  So what Iran's basically fucked and the USA just gets an economic boost from military spending?

bluGill 5mo ago

Taking wasn't the goal. I don't understand the goal, but it is clear that taking Iran wasn't.

strictnein 5mo ago

> "They essentially shot off fireworks, killed the figure head and then got check mated" I mean, that's certainly a take. A wholly inaccurate one, but it's a take. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_officials_killed_during_the_2026_Iran_war https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Iranian_officials_kill...

chrisco255 5mo ago

The U.S. isnt checkmated, the U.S. is enforcing a naval blockade against Iran and their oil based economy is in a free fall with rapid inflation. The U.S. is experiencing slightly higher gas prices but economy is still humming. Meanwhile the U.S. military has not exhausted all of its options while Iran has none.

Danox 5mo ago
The US is indeed checkmated like Afghanistan like Iraq and like Vietnam checkmated spinning your wheels spending money wasting money wasting time and wasting resources, checkmate. With the addition of most countries now looking for other trade partners the Art of the no deal…
amanaplanacanal 5mo ago
What would you consider a "win" condition here? I have no idea what the American administration is looking for as a win.
wiseowise 5mo ago
> The U.S. isnt checkmated, the U.S. is enforcing a naval blockade against Iran and their oil based economy is in a free fall with rapid inflation. That's not much of an achievement for the first military in the world. That's like second military in the world struggling to take a village in Donbas region for 4 years.