3 ms·

The fear is not "NSA is snooping on our customer data", it's "Trump has a beef with our premiere minister/president, and Jeff Bezos accepted Trumps request to t

The fear is not "NSA is snooping on our customer data", it's "Trump has a beef with our premiere minister/president, and Jeff Bezos accepted Trumps request to turn off AWS from them" that's the fear. We're far beyond the default assumption that NSA snoops on absolutely everything, and more about protection ourselves from trade wars, tariffs and similar blockages as what Microsoft did with the ICC.

dsl 6mo ago
Compelling Microsoft to turn off your Office 365 at least requires Microsoft to be complicit. Sovereign infrastructure didn't protect Venezuela or Iran.
- jurgenburgen 6mo ago
  > Sovereign infrastructure didn't protect Venezuela or Iran. Imagine if the control plane of the Shahed drones were hosted on AWS. What are you even talking about?
- player1234 6mo ago
  [dead]
- MadxX79 6mo ago
  Karım Kahn at the International Criminal Court would like a word about that.
tekknik 6mo ago
So you’re scared of losing AWS? What about the ability to have global IP space? That’s still firmly in US control.
- embedding-shape 6mo ago
  Businesses are scared to lose access to data hosted at US entities, because this recently happened, so they have good reason to fear something like that. AFAIK, the US has never done that with IP space, but if we did see evidence of that, then you'd see similar worries about that for sure. But I think most of us see it as pretty implausible to happen, since the consequences of such move would be huge, and would probably end the internet as we know it today.
- deaux 6mo ago
  The US won't want to do that because China will have an alternative ready within a day and every China-friendly country will migrate to it. Now US leadership is demented, luckily they've never heard of IPs and I really don't believe it would happen. I think the likelihood of them starting WW3 is more likely than using IPs for power games.

dsl 6mo ago

Compelling Microsoft to turn off your Office 365 at least requires Microsoft to be complicit. Sovereign infrastructure didn't protect Venezuela or Iran.

jurgenburgen 6mo ago
> Sovereign infrastructure didn't protect Venezuela or Iran. Imagine if the control plane of the Shahed drones were hosted on AWS. What are you even talking about?
player1234 6mo ago
[dead]
MadxX79 6mo ago
Karım Kahn at the International Criminal Court would like a word about that.

tekknik 6mo ago

So you’re scared of losing AWS? What about the ability to have global IP space? That’s still firmly in US control.

embedding-shape 6mo ago
Businesses are scared to lose access to data hosted at US entities, because this recently happened, so they have good reason to fear something like that. AFAIK, the US has never done that with IP space, but if we did see evidence of that, then you'd see similar worries about that for sure. But I think most of us see it as pretty implausible to happen, since the consequences of such move would be huge, and would probably end the internet as we know it today.
deaux 6mo ago
The US won't want to do that because China will have an alternative ready within a day and every China-friendly country will migrate to it. Now US leadership is demented, luckily they've never heard of IPs and I really don't believe it would happen. I think the likelihood of them starting WW3 is more likely than using IPs for power games.