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> But I for one would find it difficult to go back to a world where I can't lean on LLMs in my day-to-day It is difficult for me to read this and believe your

> But I for one would find it difficult to go back to a world where I can't lean on LLMs in my day-to-day It is difficult for me to read this and believe your brain isn't rotted If you've become reliant on it, then your skills have atrophied. Your brain has rotted.

giwook 6mo ago
So if I were to continue with your logic, our walking and running skills or level of physical fitness have atrophied because we can drive or take public transit. Should we no longer drive or take public transit anywhere? To your point, my documentation reading skills have certainly atrophied. I'm not coding as much so my coding skill has likely atrophied to an extent. It does take intentional effort to counteract this, which is why I will force myself to write code by hand still. Or why I carefully parse PR diffs and will not approve it unless I can explain what it's doing and why it's doing it that way. I was careful to explain that there are certain points in my workflow that I leverage AI to great benefit. There are plenty of points that I do not trust it and must be the HITL, generally around exercising judgment or course correcting when the agent has gone off the rails. I can understand why you would jump to such an assumption though. There is nuance to everything.
- bluefirebrand 6mo ago
  > our walking and running skills or level of physical fitness have atrophied because we can drive or take public transit Yes, obviously. Have you heard of the obesity crisis? https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and... Yes, our diets play a big role here too, but our sedentary lifestyles, which includes driving everywhere or taking transit, surely is a factor. So.. yes?
  - giwook 6mo ago
    Yes, and yet they are free to live their life as they wish which is my point. One can do anything they want so long as they are willing to accept the responsibility of doing so. Software devs overusing AI then blame it for rotting their brains in your analogy would be people eating too much food and then blaming the food for making them overweight.
- snowe2010 6mo ago
  It’s pretty funny that you don't see the absurdity here. Yes, our physical fitness has dropped. Mostly from cars, much less from public transit. > Should we no longer drive or take public transit anywhere Yes? It’s bad for the environment and living closer to the things you do is better for everyone. But not only that, but this has absolutely nothing to do with being a skilled professional. Is walking or running your job? Yeah there’s nuance to everything.
  - giwook 6mo ago
    Yeah I mean you're right. My point is, will an appreciable percentage of the population do that? Or is convenience king?

giwook 6mo ago

So if I were to continue with your logic, our walking and running skills or level of physical fitness have atrophied because we can drive or take public transit. Should we no longer drive or take public transit anywhere? To your point, my documentation reading skills have certainly atrophied. I'm not coding as much so my coding skill has likely atrophied to an extent. It does take intentional effort to counteract this, which is why I will force myself to write code by hand still. Or why I carefully parse PR diffs and will not approve it unless I can explain what it's doing and why it's doing it that way. I was careful to explain that there are certain points in my workflow that I leverage AI to great benefit. There are plenty of points that I do not trust it and must be the HITL, generally around exercising judgment or course correcting when the agent has gone off the rails. I can understand why you would jump to such an assumption though. There is nuance to everything.

bluefirebrand 6mo ago
> our walking and running skills or level of physical fitness have atrophied because we can drive or take public transit Yes, obviously. Have you heard of the obesity crisis? https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and-overweight https://www.who.int/news-room/fact-sheets/detail/obesity-and... Yes, our diets play a big role here too, but our sedentary lifestyles, which includes driving everywhere or taking transit, surely is a factor. So.. yes?
- giwook 6mo ago
  Yes, and yet they are free to live their life as they wish which is my point. One can do anything they want so long as they are willing to accept the responsibility of doing so. Software devs overusing AI then blame it for rotting their brains in your analogy would be people eating too much food and then blaming the food for making them overweight.
snowe2010 6mo ago
It’s pretty funny that you don't see the absurdity here. Yes, our physical fitness has dropped. Mostly from cars, much less from public transit. > Should we no longer drive or take public transit anywhere Yes? It’s bad for the environment and living closer to the things you do is better for everyone. But not only that, but this has absolutely nothing to do with being a skilled professional. Is walking or running your job? Yeah there’s nuance to everything.
- giwook 6mo ago
  Yeah I mean you're right. My point is, will an appreciable percentage of the population do that? Or is convenience king?