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"you don't even need to try to look at any correlation or causation to arrive at this" You actually very much do. If there is no causation, then it is not "the
by gordian-mind 5mo ago
"you don't even need to try to look at any correlation or causation to arrive at this"
You actually very much do. If there is no causation, then it is not "their impact". Otherwise, you're just advocating for rope-makers to be punished for wrong-use of their product. Which is, of course, foolish.
- embedding-shape 5mo agoOk, put another way, do you think we clearly know exactly the pros and cons for individuals to use AI chatbots for mental health treatment? If you don't clearly know exactly those things, wanting anything else than "AI companies to be held responsible for the impact of their chatbots" as a first step would be utterly foolish and de-humanizing.
- gordian-mind 5mo agoUsing uncertainty to punish your perceived enemies is called "injustice".
- embedding-shape 5mo agoNo, figuring out harms is called "thinking before acting", and unless you want laws and regulations written in blood (something I personally want to avoid), you need to think before acting. Figuring out what harms something in wide use has, is a good thing, and doesn't mean "ban it today", it means "lets figure it out".
- gordian-mind 5mo agoLanguage this vague has a name: it's called "bullshit".
- embedding-shape 5mo agoReminds me of another slang, probably applicable to this entire discussion: "pointless"
- l23k4 5mo ago> "AI companies to be held responsible for the impact of their chatbots" Sure, but people on HN have a weird idea of what "held responsible" means. Often it seems to mean "harshly punished", as opposed to making the injured parties whole. This probably reflects a split between US culture and the rest of the Western world.