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I think you're forgetting issue tracking and CI.

by _flux 5mo ago

shimman 5mo ago
Forgejo has both these things, I'd even argue Forgejo has a better runner than GitHub actions as it's less resource heavy and easier to debug when issues arise (only ran into one, and it was self inflicted).
- _flux 5mo ago
  I have no trouble believing it is better :), but it is not as easy to mirror a Github issues, or CI configuration, to Forgejo or back as it is to handle the git side. I think Radicle is interesting. It doesn't solve the CI bit, at least not yet, but I suppose it's possible to hook up some local runner for it. There's also a bug tracker which I believe was called bug, but I can't find it ;), that tries to bridge different issue trackers and providing offline mode for working with them. People of course also love free CI capacity where they can run even untrusted code, so in that sense Microsoft resources might be difficult to compete against.
  - amusingimpala75 5mo ago
    Radicle CI does exist but it is admittedly fairly early on in development
  - xvilka 5mo ago
    There is some CI service in Radicle but it's still very barebones[1]. [1] https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z3qg5TKmN83afz2fj9z3fQjU8vaYE https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z3qg5TKmN...
- treyd 5mo ago
  I really wish people would drop the GHA model because it's so bad and insecure by design. GitLab's CI is miles better and easier to use.
  - shimman 5mo ago
    True but GitLab is going to run into the same issues as GitHub, maybe even worse because GitLab doesn't have a trillion dollar multinational benefactor. Public corporation and developer tooling has never boded well, a current look at GitLab reflects this sentiment perfectly. Which is why we should always champion FOSS for dev tooling as it's the only way a community can have a say in an industry dominated by unregulated tech behemoths.
    - overfeed 5mo ago
      > True but GitLab is going to run into the same issues as GitHub Will they? Has Gitlab doubled down on "Agentic AI" and thus require 30x capacity to support current users, while being kneecapped by Azure?
      - shimman 5mo ago
        Well GitLab has to deal with a board that hasn't seen exactly great returns since they went public and the situation is unlikely to get better if they continue being a public corporation. Recent leadership statements instill zero confidence on their plans to do anything meaningful. Same problem, capitalism, but different constraints.

I think you're forgetting issue tracking and CI.

by _flux 5mo ago

I think you're forgetting issue tracking and CI.

Forgejo has both these things, I'd even argue Forgejo has a better runner than GitHub actions as it's less resource heavy and easier to debug when issues arise (only ran into one, and it was self inflicted).

_flux 5mo ago
I have no trouble believing it is better :), but it is not as easy to mirror a Github issues, or CI configuration, to Forgejo or back as it is to handle the git side. I think Radicle is interesting. It doesn't solve the CI bit, at least not yet, but I suppose it's possible to hook up some local runner for it. There's also a bug tracker which I believe was called bug, but I can't find it ;), that tries to bridge different issue trackers and providing offline mode for working with them. People of course also love free CI capacity where they can run even untrusted code, so in that sense Microsoft resources might be difficult to compete against.
- amusingimpala75 5mo ago
  Radicle CI does exist but it is admittedly fairly early on in development
- xvilka 5mo ago
  There is some CI service in Radicle but it's still very barebones[1]. [1] https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z3qg5TKmN83afz2fj9z3fQjU8vaYE https://radicle.network/nodes/seed.radicle.dev/rad:z3qg5TKmN...
treyd 5mo ago
I really wish people would drop the GHA model because it's so bad and insecure by design. GitLab's CI is miles better and easier to use.
- shimman 5mo ago
  True but GitLab is going to run into the same issues as GitHub, maybe even worse because GitLab doesn't have a trillion dollar multinational benefactor. Public corporation and developer tooling has never boded well, a current look at GitLab reflects this sentiment perfectly. Which is why we should always champion FOSS for dev tooling as it's the only way a community can have a say in an industry dominated by unregulated tech behemoths.
  - overfeed 5mo ago
    > True but GitLab is going to run into the same issues as GitHub Will they? Has Gitlab doubled down on "Agentic AI" and thus require 30x capacity to support current users, while being kneecapped by Azure?
    - shimman 5mo ago
      Well GitLab has to deal with a board that hasn't seen exactly great returns since they went public and the situation is unlikely to get better if they continue being a public corporation. Recent leadership statements instill zero confidence on their plans to do anything meaningful. Same problem, capitalism, but different constraints.