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I'd never heard of that imprint stuff but that's pretty Draconian yeah. If it will start being required for foreign sites I'll block all German IPs. I avoid do

I'd never heard of that imprint stuff but that's pretty Draconian yeah. If it will start being required for foreign sites I'll block all German IPs. I avoid doing any business in Germany these days. I tried to get a VPS from Hetzner but they demanded a copy of my ID and didn't accept that I blanked out my citizen number. Which is actually recommended by our national police for identify theft risk. I moved to Scaleway instead. Much better company.

sevenzero 6mo ago
Yea that was my bad, its Germany specific. I sometimes forget Europe usually isnt as tight as Germany when it gets to these kinda things.
FpUser 6mo ago
I am from Canada and when renting from Hetzner was never asked about personal ID. Maybe because I started few years ago. Never knew about Scaleway. Looked at their website - prices for bare metal seem to be higher than in Hetzner
- sevenzero 6mo ago
  The ID checks are random. When I registered a while back I had to provide mine, so I aborted the registration. I tried again recently and was not asked for one.
- wolvoleo 6mo ago
  Yes but hetzner sell a lot of older hardware for bargain basement prices. It's their thing. They're more of a traditional hoster. Scaleway's compute is more like Amazon EC2.
  - FpUser 6mo ago
    >"Scaleway's compute is more like Amazon EC2" - meaning they give less and charge more. Thanks but I'll pass. Hardware I rend from Hetzner is usually 16 core AMD with 128GB RAM and couple of nvme's. Never had single failure. Of course I periodically buy new server, do deploy. Old one becomes standby and standby of the old gets cancelled. Scaleway's offer of the same computing power is highly unattractive comparatively.
    - wolvoleo 6mo ago
      What I mean is Scaleway is more dynamic cloud-like. You spin stuff up and pay by the hour. It's not really as cost effective for static 24/7 stuff just like Amazon isn't. That's exactly what I meant by Hetzner being more traditional.
polack 6mo ago
Same here. I tried different EU providers before I migrated our servers off the US clouds and Hetzner demanded my passport and webcam live verification. Thats a HUGE red flag and we went with Scaleway instead. Happy I found out what a shitty company Hetzner are before I invested more time in them.

sevenzero 6mo ago

Yea that was my bad, its Germany specific. I sometimes forget Europe usually isnt as tight as Germany when it gets to these kinda things.

FpUser 6mo ago

I am from Canada and when renting from Hetzner was never asked about personal ID. Maybe because I started few years ago. Never knew about Scaleway. Looked at their website - prices for bare metal seem to be higher than in Hetzner

sevenzero 6mo ago
The ID checks are random. When I registered a while back I had to provide mine, so I aborted the registration. I tried again recently and was not asked for one.
wolvoleo 6mo ago
Yes but hetzner sell a lot of older hardware for bargain basement prices. It's their thing. They're more of a traditional hoster. Scaleway's compute is more like Amazon EC2.
- FpUser 6mo ago
  >"Scaleway's compute is more like Amazon EC2" - meaning they give less and charge more. Thanks but I'll pass. Hardware I rend from Hetzner is usually 16 core AMD with 128GB RAM and couple of nvme's. Never had single failure. Of course I periodically buy new server, do deploy. Old one becomes standby and standby of the old gets cancelled. Scaleway's offer of the same computing power is highly unattractive comparatively.
  - wolvoleo 6mo ago
    What I mean is Scaleway is more dynamic cloud-like. You spin stuff up and pay by the hour. It's not really as cost effective for static 24/7 stuff just like Amazon isn't. That's exactly what I meant by Hetzner being more traditional.

polack 6mo ago

Same here. I tried different EU providers before I migrated our servers off the US clouds and Hetzner demanded my passport and webcam live verification. Thats a HUGE red flag and we went with Scaleway instead. Happy I found out what a shitty company Hetzner are before I invested more time in them.