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I started the process of this back in January and now, at least in terms of product hosting; fully migrated into European infrastructure (https://bannermedia.lt

I started the process of this back in January and now, at least in terms of product hosting; fully migrated into European infrastructure (https://bannermedia.ltd https://bannermedia.ltd). It didn't come without a bit of pain, but glad I've done it - and to come with this I've ended up building a whole terraform setup for cross provider / cross region high availability within Europe. So far my key mappings included: - Cloudflare -> Bunny CDN (and honestly I am so impressed with Bunny so far) - AWS (or similar) -> Hetzner + OVH; I'm also looking at Civo.com for UK presence. - GitHub -> Forgejo. I do actually still operate in GitHub for development only work, however Forgejo is mirrored within my European private network, and thats where deployment workflows happen. - Google Analytics -> Self hosted Umami. I'll be doing a writeup fairly soon on the entire process.

esistgut 5mo ago
Waiting for your writeup, especially the Bunny part. We moved away from AWS but Cloudflare remains a point of failure, we are going to remove it as soon as we have some spare time to do the required research.
- IAmFledge 5mo ago
  Honestly my needs are not super complicated. There are a few edge rules I have in place to try and block things like the TikTok Bytespider which is hammering one of my sites. It's able to support round-robin multi-endpoint DNS, including weightings you can update which is super useful for what I'm doing. I've only really needed to speak to support twice so far; one was to get un-blocked because I migrated all my sites too quickly on a fresh account lol, so triggered their suspicious activity (so just be aware of that) - but both times they replied within an hour and resolved things.
- MartijnHols 5mo ago
  What are you looking for? I use Bunny CDN along with Bunny Shield, and together they're better than Cloudflare for me. It's $10/month, but I can afford it for the privacy of my users. Bunny's aggressive bot blocking without bothering the vast majority of users with regular challenge pages provides a much better UX.
  - ffritz 5mo ago
    But Bunny Shield is not a Cloudflare WAF replacement afaik. Not even close.
    - IAmFledge 5mo ago
      Mentioned this in another reply; in my case I am running Bunny Shield, but my Bunny origins are then my own ingress boxes / LBs which themselves are running ModSecurity with OWASP CRS; and CrowdSec.
TacticalCoder 5mo ago
> - AWS (or similar) -> Hetzner + OVH; I'm also looking at Civo.com for UK presence. At some point deciders at EU companies are going to notice that Hetzner and/or OVH are also not a bit but much cheaper than AWS.
- zeafoamrun 5mo ago
  We already use them for our egress heavy services.
xandrius 5mo ago
Instead of Hetzner, I found UpCloud to be a great EU alternative. Reliable, cheap and supportive.
- manueltgomes 5mo ago
  How's the Object Storage support? did you have any issues? Hetzner looks more stable now but I had a lot of issues with S3 compatible storage a while ago... Almost made me change everything. If you're willing or able to share of course..
  - xandrius 5mo ago
    Honestly never needed it but here is their page about it: https://upcloud.com/global/products/object-storage/ https://upcloud.com/global/products/object-storage/
GordonS 5mo ago
> looking at Civo.com for UK presence Hadn't come across Civo. They advertise "transparent" pricing, but I can't seem to find prices for VMs... or anything else! Maybe it's just me, but do you have a link to a pricing page perchance?
- zipy124 5mo ago
  In the menu there is the pricing page? URL is /pricing
  - GordonS 5mo ago
    Huh, I'd swear earlier today that page didn't have any actual prices on it, but it clearly does now, thanks.
ffritz 5mo ago
Did you use Cloudflare for it’s WAF too or just CDN? Last I checked Bunny is not a replacement for the CF WAF.
- IAmFledge 5mo ago
  They have Bunny Shield which I have in place as a first stage, but Bunny points to my own ingress boxes / load balancers which themselves are running ModSecurity, OWASP CRS and CrowdSec.
- geri4 5mo ago
  try Gcore as well
actualwitch 5mo ago
Solid list! To expand upon it, Let's Encrypt -> ZeroSSL.
jviotti 5mo ago
If you want pure compute, https://unikraft.com https://unikraft.com has been great. We run schemas.sourcemeta.com on it, and it offers EU hosting (Frankfurt). They are themselves a German startup (though now with US presence too)

esistgut 5mo ago

Waiting for your writeup, especially the Bunny part. We moved away from AWS but Cloudflare remains a point of failure, we are going to remove it as soon as we have some spare time to do the required research.

IAmFledge 5mo ago
Honestly my needs are not super complicated. There are a few edge rules I have in place to try and block things like the TikTok Bytespider which is hammering one of my sites. It's able to support round-robin multi-endpoint DNS, including weightings you can update which is super useful for what I'm doing. I've only really needed to speak to support twice so far; one was to get un-blocked because I migrated all my sites too quickly on a fresh account lol, so triggered their suspicious activity (so just be aware of that) - but both times they replied within an hour and resolved things.
MartijnHols 5mo ago
What are you looking for? I use Bunny CDN along with Bunny Shield, and together they're better than Cloudflare for me. It's $10/month, but I can afford it for the privacy of my users. Bunny's aggressive bot blocking without bothering the vast majority of users with regular challenge pages provides a much better UX.
- ffritz 5mo ago
  But Bunny Shield is not a Cloudflare WAF replacement afaik. Not even close.
  - IAmFledge 5mo ago
    Mentioned this in another reply; in my case I am running Bunny Shield, but my Bunny origins are then my own ingress boxes / LBs which themselves are running ModSecurity with OWASP CRS; and CrowdSec.

TacticalCoder 5mo ago

> - AWS (or similar) -> Hetzner + OVH; I'm also looking at Civo.com for UK presence. At some point deciders at EU companies are going to notice that Hetzner and/or OVH are also not a bit but much cheaper than AWS.

zeafoamrun 5mo ago
We already use them for our egress heavy services.

xandrius 5mo ago

Instead of Hetzner, I found UpCloud to be a great EU alternative. Reliable, cheap and supportive.

manueltgomes 5mo ago
How's the Object Storage support? did you have any issues? Hetzner looks more stable now but I had a lot of issues with S3 compatible storage a while ago... Almost made me change everything. If you're willing or able to share of course..
- xandrius 5mo ago
  Honestly never needed it but here is their page about it: https://upcloud.com/global/products/object-storage/ https://upcloud.com/global/products/object-storage/

GordonS 5mo ago

> looking at Civo.com for UK presence Hadn't come across Civo. They advertise "transparent" pricing, but I can't seem to find prices for VMs... or anything else! Maybe it's just me, but do you have a link to a pricing page perchance?

zipy124 5mo ago
In the menu there is the pricing page? URL is /pricing
- GordonS 5mo ago
  Huh, I'd swear earlier today that page didn't have any actual prices on it, but it clearly does now, thanks.

ffritz 5mo ago

Did you use Cloudflare for it’s WAF too or just CDN? Last I checked Bunny is not a replacement for the CF WAF.

IAmFledge 5mo ago
They have Bunny Shield which I have in place as a first stage, but Bunny points to my own ingress boxes / load balancers which themselves are running ModSecurity, OWASP CRS and CrowdSec.
geri4 5mo ago
try Gcore as well

actualwitch 5mo ago

Solid list! To expand upon it, Let's Encrypt -> ZeroSSL.

jviotti 5mo ago

If you want pure compute, https://unikraft.com https://unikraft.com has been great. We run schemas.sourcemeta.com on it, and it offers EU hosting (Frankfurt). They are themselves a German startup (though now with US presence too)