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What does he means, an hour to spin down? You pay for a minimum of an hour per node on EC2? I wasn't aware of that... why don't they charge per minute (or secon

What does he means, an hour to spin down? You pay for a minimum of an hour per node on EC2? I wasn't aware of that... why don't they charge per minute (or second, for that matter)?

moe 18y ago
They charge by the partial hour. E.g. when you shut down a small instance after 61 minutes you'll pay for two hours. Frankly I fail to see how this matters today or what kind of app he envisions where it could matter in the future. 1000 large instances set you back a measly $800 per hour. If your app needs elasticity to a degree anywhere near that then the spindown overhead will probably be the least of your worries. After all I cannot imagine a traffic pattern that would "flicker" at a second or even subsecond rate.We're rather talking about huge surges (slashdot effect) or the classic bell curve pretty much everywhere. When you compare that $800/hr to the operating costs of running your own 25 fully stuffed racks then you'll still come out ahead by a large margin - with every opportunity for a spindown only adding to your advantage.
- mseebach 18y ago
  > Frankly I fail to see how this matters today or what kind of app he envisions where it could matter in the future. > After all I cannot imagine a traffic pattern that would "flicker" at a second or even subsecond rate. The app he's describing in the article: testing of his product. If done on 400 machines in parallel, it would take 2 min 36 sec, or 1.040 machine minutes. But he don't want to pay for 24.000 machine minutes, so he's opting for the the closer to one hour option, saving a lot of money, but failing at his objective: make the deployment (of which testing is a sub-process) as short as possible.
  - moe 18y ago
    Shame on me, seems I skimmed that text way too briefly. Yes, now it makes sense.

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What does he means, an hour to spin down? You pay for a minimum of an hour per node on EC2? I wasn't aware of that... why don't they charge per minute (or secon

by FiReaNG3L 18y ago

What does he means, an hour to spin down? You pay for a minimum of an hour per node on EC2? I wasn't aware of that... why don't they charge per minute (or second, for that matter)?

moe 18y ago
They charge by the partial hour. E.g. when you shut down a small instance after 61 minutes you'll pay for two hours. Frankly I fail to see how this matters today or what kind of app he envisions where it could matter in the future. 1000 large instances set you back a measly $800 per hour. If your app needs elasticity to a degree anywhere near that then the spindown overhead will probably be the least of your worries. After all I cannot imagine a traffic pattern that would "flicker" at a second or even subsecond rate.We're rather talking about huge surges (slashdot effect) or the classic bell curve pretty much everywhere. When you compare that $800/hr to the operating costs of running your own 25 fully stuffed racks then you'll still come out ahead by a large margin - with every opportunity for a spindown only adding to your advantage.
- mseebach 18y ago
  > Frankly I fail to see how this matters today or what kind of app he envisions where it could matter in the future. > After all I cannot imagine a traffic pattern that would "flicker" at a second or even subsecond rate. The app he's describing in the article: testing of his product. If done on 400 machines in parallel, it would take 2 min 36 sec, or 1.040 machine minutes. But he don't want to pay for 24.000 machine minutes, so he's opting for the the closer to one hour option, saving a lot of money, but failing at his objective: make the deployment (of which testing is a sub-process) as short as possible.
  - moe 18y ago
    Shame on me, seems I skimmed that text way too briefly. Yes, now it makes sense.