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Most countries currently have laws that openly require telecommunications providers, but not messaging apps, to do lawful intercept. This isn't hidden. Most sp
by tardedmeme 5mo ago
Most countries currently have laws that openly require telecommunications providers, but not messaging apps, to do lawful intercept. This isn't hidden.
Most spy agencies find having to get a warrant from a judge for each target too cumbersome, so they tap into fiber cables and do unlawful intercept as well.
- Bender 5mo agoMost countries currently have laws that openly require telecommunications providers, but not messaging apps, to do lawful intercept. This isn't hidden. That is the official legal implementation but not really how it works. Large tech companies are incentivized to cooperate with governments and will do so without hesitation. Governments can make it nearly impossible to operate a business. Cooperation clears that hurdle. This is not some theory but directly from the horses mouths. I have spoken to all the executives at every company I have worked for and this is the general consensus in large companies.
- tardedmeme 5mo agoOkay? But it's not a secret legal agreement that you do lawful intercept. It's literally the law.
- Bender 5mo agoOkay? But it's not a secret legal agreement that you do lawful intercept. It's literally the law. Not when a company volunteers to perform the intercept without telling anyone. It's technically illegal and governments give the company immunity. Something is only a law to everyone if it is enforced on everyone. I did countless wiretaps in the 90's at the behest of my boss. Once in a while there would be a warrant and sometimes there wasn't. I've seen this behavior all throughout my former careers both in wireless and internet and that's even before we get into the equipment that dials out to clouds to create an ad-hoc bi-directional VPN into the data-center.