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That M versus B is way too subtle. 0.026B is my suggestion
by kristopolous 5mo ago
That M versus B is way too subtle. 0.026B is my suggestion
- HenryNdubuaku 5mo agoHaha, we were trying to not be hand-wavy too much :)
- kristopolous 5mo agoOh hey it's Henry. I met you a couple weeks ago at an event in SF. Nice to see you on here.
- HenryNdubuaku 5mo agoHaha, yeah I’m here, mostly quiet though
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- dymk 5mo ago[flagged]
- f33d5173 5mo agoI read it as 26B as well.
- kristopolous 5mo agoPardon me, do I know you? Why are you attacking me?
- osrec 5mo agoI don't think they're attacking you, but suggesting you read more carefully. The information provided is correct and clear, but you need to let go of your own biases when consuming it. I personally prefer the M to the B. I guess as an engineer, noticing the units comes pretty naturally.
- kristopolous 5mo ago25-35 Billion is expected these days, there's many models of this size, it's very common. (Gemma 4 31B, Qwen 3.6 25B & 35B, JT 35B, EXAONE 35B, Nemotron 30B, GLM 4.7-flash 30B, Servam 30B, LFM2 24B, Granite 4.1 30B...) Announcing something that's 1/1000th is significant and remarkable! Hiding it in a single letter is burying the lede.
- dang 5mo agoCan you please make your substantive points without sharp elbows? We're trying for something different here, and would appreciate it if you'd post in the intended spirit. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- bigyabai 5mo agoThe "M" nomenclature has been around since at least BERT and T5/FLAN. It's valid to use it even if today's LLM devs are more familiar with billion-scale models.
- DrammBA 5mo agoI was so confused by many comments in this post but thanks to you I realized that some people are apparently reading it as 26B and that's why their comments make no sense.