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I honestly don't get it. They have more to win by doing things right than with this crap they pull out . Never getting a Bambulab.

goolz 5mo ago
Ya at this point I mainly know Bambu from their adversarial behavior. Some friends and I put three new printers online this past month and proudly none are Bambulabs.
hsuduebc2 5mo ago
This feels like pressure from the state. I do not see why they would do this otherwise. If people use these printers at work, they may be willingly sending prototypes and designs to China. That would create a huge advantage, because the company could know who bought the printer, where they are located, and what they are working on. Since Chinese companies are required to comply with the government, corporate espionage seems like the most logical explanation to me.
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- bredren 5mo ago
  It also enables a similar model to Facebook's insight into third party mobile app growth. The state could look for early growth trends in a given category or model type. Then their org has the option to burnish or bury models that align with their goals.
  - hsuduebc2 5mo ago
    Pretty much. It's so blatant obvious severe security risk for anyone who is not perceiving computers as black box magic device.
Larrikin 5mo ago
Some managers are fine screwing power users when they feel they are big enough. I will never buy a Chamberlain garage door opener for their similar stance against the Home Assistant community
- bredren 5mo ago
  Which garage door opener brands / models would you recommend?
  - xp84 5mo ago
    Though I'm not OP, I will say that it seems like there are two brands that mostly have the market cornered. Chamberlain/Liftmaster/MyQ is all the same company; they are a gross company that hates the idea of giving you control over your device. Zero LAN control story, Zero Homekit story, zero Home Assistant and no possibility of any of these. Genie - whose "app" thing is called Aladdin Connect is the other one. There is a HA integration[1] for it, though it's cloud-dependent, no LAN story so again your ability to control it is subject the company's cloud servers being available, and to any future whim they may have. The Github for the plugin has issues reported, but no idea how widespread they are. Looking at places like Home Depot it seems there's a brand called SkyLink[2] but it seems cheap in the bad way, and while it has its own "app" there seems to be no HA story whatsoever, so I assume kinda the worst of all. Deeply uncomfortably, I would have to grudgingly acknowledge the practicality of buying from the gross Chamberlain, never using its MyQ BS, and connecting a RatGDO to it instead, which would give the best experience, even though giving them any business deeply offends me. [1] https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/aladdin_connect/ https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/aladdin_connect/ [2] https://www.homedepot.com/p/SkyLink-Side-Wall-Mount-Quiet-Garage-Door-Opener-with-WiFi-and-LED-Light-for-Sectional-Doors-up-to-12-ft-High-G2/333863548 https://www.homedepot.com/p/SkyLink-Side-Wall-Mount-Quiet-Ga...
    - 15155 5mo ago
      > no possibility of any of these. Except, you know, a UART? https://ratcloud.llc/ https://ratcloud.llc/
ezst 5mo ago
Do they? They came to the realisation that they control a sufficient fraction of the market that your preference as a consumer no longer matters to them.
arjie 5mo ago
I am sufficiently paranoid that I think this is drone part detection from the Chinese government.
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- echelon 5mo ago
  This is the second comment that has mentioned this. I tried googling, and I found YouTube videos of Ukrainians using Bambu to make drone parts. Is there any more to read about this angle? China blocking Ukraine's access to the tech?

goolz 5mo ago

Ya at this point I mainly know Bambu from their adversarial behavior. Some friends and I put three new printers online this past month and proudly none are Bambulabs.

hsuduebc2 5mo ago

This feels like pressure from the state. I do not see why they would do this otherwise. If people use these printers at work, they may be willingly sending prototypes and designs to China. That would create a huge advantage, because the company could know who bought the printer, where they are located, and what they are working on. Since Chinese companies are required to comply with the government, corporate espionage seems like the most logical explanation to me.

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bredren 5mo ago
It also enables a similar model to Facebook's insight into third party mobile app growth. The state could look for early growth trends in a given category or model type. Then their org has the option to burnish or bury models that align with their goals.
- hsuduebc2 5mo ago
  Pretty much. It's so blatant obvious severe security risk for anyone who is not perceiving computers as black box magic device.

Larrikin 5mo ago

Some managers are fine screwing power users when they feel they are big enough. I will never buy a Chamberlain garage door opener for their similar stance against the Home Assistant community

bredren 5mo ago
Which garage door opener brands / models would you recommend?
- xp84 5mo ago
  Though I'm not OP, I will say that it seems like there are two brands that mostly have the market cornered. Chamberlain/Liftmaster/MyQ is all the same company; they are a gross company that hates the idea of giving you control over your device. Zero LAN control story, Zero Homekit story, zero Home Assistant and no possibility of any of these. Genie - whose "app" thing is called Aladdin Connect is the other one. There is a HA integration[1] for it, though it's cloud-dependent, no LAN story so again your ability to control it is subject the company's cloud servers being available, and to any future whim they may have. The Github for the plugin has issues reported, but no idea how widespread they are. Looking at places like Home Depot it seems there's a brand called SkyLink[2] but it seems cheap in the bad way, and while it has its own "app" there seems to be no HA story whatsoever, so I assume kinda the worst of all. Deeply uncomfortably, I would have to grudgingly acknowledge the practicality of buying from the gross Chamberlain, never using its MyQ BS, and connecting a RatGDO to it instead, which would give the best experience, even though giving them any business deeply offends me. [1] https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/aladdin_connect/ https://www.home-assistant.io/integrations/aladdin_connect/ [2] https://www.homedepot.com/p/SkyLink-Side-Wall-Mount-Quiet-Garage-Door-Opener-with-WiFi-and-LED-Light-for-Sectional-Doors-up-to-12-ft-High-G2/333863548 https://www.homedepot.com/p/SkyLink-Side-Wall-Mount-Quiet-Ga...
  - 15155 5mo ago
    > no possibility of any of these. Except, you know, a UART? https://ratcloud.llc/ https://ratcloud.llc/

ezst 5mo ago

Do they? They came to the realisation that they control a sufficient fraction of the market that your preference as a consumer no longer matters to them.

arjie 5mo ago

I am sufficiently paranoid that I think this is drone part detection from the Chinese government.

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echelon 5mo ago
This is the second comment that has mentioned this. I tried googling, and I found YouTube videos of Ukrainians using Bambu to make drone parts. Is there any more to read about this angle? China blocking Ukraine's access to the tech?