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There was literally no evidence voting for Trump would have reasonably led to less wars, and enough evidence, in fact, to the contrary.

kxkdkdisoskdnen 5mo ago
aside from the first term? guy lost his marbles after 2020 but there were no new wars in the first term and that was evidence. turns out he has different handlers this time. and dementia. but there were 4 years with no new wars. I liked that.
- newaccountman2 5mo ago
  There weren't any "new wars" during Obama's and Biden's terms either, and Trump was clearly for years before he ran in 2016. Ukraine is something Russia started and the cost to the US is DoD dollars and military hardware. Iran is something the US and Israel started. It has led to casualties among American soldiers, civilians in Gulf countries, as well as economic cost that is falling on all of us.
ryandrake 5mo ago
Yes, MAGA ran on a broad platform of chaos, griefing, and personal vendettas. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots and know war was on the agenda.
parineum 5mo ago
There is a long history of evidence that voting for establishment candidates leads to more wars and Trump didn't start any new wars in his first term and reduced troop deployments in places where existing conflicts were active so I'm not sure what you mean by no evidence. Supporters were happy about that aspect of his first term. But, like I said, desperate people make desperate choices. If you're a person who feels strongly about something the establishment wing of both parties agrees on, anti-establishment candidates look very appealing, warts and all.
- newaccountman2 5mo ago
  The level of moral fatuousness and practical nonsense your post involves is appalling and hard to unpack. > There is a long history of evidence that voting for establishment candidates leads to more wars Literally just the US invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War. There were no "new wars" during the Obama Administration or the Biden Administration. You'd have to stretch the meaning of the word "war" rather far to argue otherwise. This Iran war is a totally unnecessary actual war that has claimed the lives of American soldiers, as well as others. If someone votes for an openly bellicose, jingoistic, bigoted wanna be "strongman" dictator, they aren't voting for less war. How stupid.

kxkdkdisoskdnen 5mo ago

aside from the first term? guy lost his marbles after 2020 but there were no new wars in the first term and that was evidence. turns out he has different handlers this time. and dementia. but there were 4 years with no new wars. I liked that.

newaccountman2 5mo ago
There weren't any "new wars" during Obama's and Biden's terms either, and Trump was clearly for years before he ran in 2016. Ukraine is something Russia started and the cost to the US is DoD dollars and military hardware. Iran is something the US and Israel started. It has led to casualties among American soldiers, civilians in Gulf countries, as well as economic cost that is falling on all of us.

ryandrake 5mo ago

Yes, MAGA ran on a broad platform of chaos, griefing, and personal vendettas. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to connect the dots and know war was on the agenda.

parineum 5mo ago

There is a long history of evidence that voting for establishment candidates leads to more wars and Trump didn't start any new wars in his first term and reduced troop deployments in places where existing conflicts were active so I'm not sure what you mean by no evidence. Supporters were happy about that aspect of his first term. But, like I said, desperate people make desperate choices. If you're a person who feels strongly about something the establishment wing of both parties agrees on, anti-establishment candidates look very appealing, warts and all.

newaccountman2 5mo ago
The level of moral fatuousness and practical nonsense your post involves is appalling and hard to unpack. > There is a long history of evidence that voting for establishment candidates leads to more wars Literally just the US invasion of Afghanistan and the Iraq War. There were no "new wars" during the Obama Administration or the Biden Administration. You'd have to stretch the meaning of the word "war" rather far to argue otherwise. This Iran war is a totally unnecessary actual war that has claimed the lives of American soldiers, as well as others. If someone votes for an openly bellicose, jingoistic, bigoted wanna be "strongman" dictator, they aren't voting for less war. How stupid.