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Original poster of the thread here. Doesn't appear to be negative anymore, but here is what it looked like: https://vale.rocks/micros/20260512-0652 https://val

Original poster of the thread here. Doesn't appear to be negative anymore, but here is what it looked like: https://vale.rocks/micros/20260512-0652 https://vale.rocks/micros/20260512-0652 Screenshot was taken at 06:50 UTC.

Imustaskforhelp 5mo ago
Do you have any idea on what caused it? https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=48104663 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=48104663 This seems to have gone to -10 and then went up according to this, which matches what your comment had said that you were seeing -10 on your android. Edit: (actually it had gone all the way to -15) and seems that this website has been still stuck at -8 upvotes at the moment of this comment and this link has also been the proof for me to finally see/confirm this as the submission now has positive upvotes.
- OuterVale 5mo ago
  It is hardly a satisfying answer, but I haven't the foggiest what caused it. I submitted it the same as I've submitted many other submissions in the past.
aaron695 5mo ago
A guess would be it got a story flag -4 points. Then something happened that overrode the show score, which is not the same as the real score for stories. Like you did a edit? (after it got one flag, which would not be seen) (Random guess) [Edit] Up votes wouldn't change it until it got back to zero since -3 is not valid. The external -10 might be too many comments with a low score is not good
hans-l 5mo ago
Maybe there is an API to downvote posts and some bots found it? Edit: Actually I would wager that it’s some kind of automatic downvoting when the system detects bad votes or comments. Something like “friends shouldn’t vote”. Since we see voting on posts and not comments we could see it go negative.
- bombcar 5mo ago
  I suspect there’s downweights the system can apply - and if five people voted it up, the -5 downweight was applied, and then four of the upvotes were removed, you’d end up at -4.
throwanem 5mo ago
Not at all related, but I love your work! Your photographs betray a subtle, curious, particular, and respectful eye. Keep shooting!
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- OuterVale 5mo ago
  Thanks. That is really nice of you to say.
  - throwanem 5mo ago
    My comment on the other thread meanwhile wasn't nice at all, but it was also misdirected, and meant to refer to Hacker News rather than your own site. (I like the style, too. It's good to see Helvetica get a deserved reevaluation, now that the millennial generation is aging out of even being able to imagine we are cool. Or ever were.) My own profile on this website may help elucidate my perspective on the matter. I'm both shadowbanned and have applied a hundred-year "noprocrast" countdown, and it's frankly embarrassing how little that actually does to get the website not to accept those few contributions I still care to make. It is as if the folks who run this place were getting a little desperate! - both for the "crowdsourced" unpaid work that goes into making this website worthy of interest, and for the last dwindling taste of what was once termed the "hacker spirit" by fringey weirdo ideologues like Stallman and Barlow. (The idea that HTTP GET requests must be idempotent for safety, for example, has totally passed by this site's implementors and maintainers, or maybe never made a dent. Hence the subject of this very thread!) In any case I regret the misplaced comment, and apologize for the dismay it likely caused. This website is embarrassing, and has just about run its course. Yours is not embarrassing at all, and I hope you're just getting started!

Imustaskforhelp 5mo ago

Do you have any idea on what caused it? https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=48104663 https://news.social-protocols.org/stats?id=48104663 This seems to have gone to -10 and then went up according to this, which matches what your comment had said that you were seeing -10 on your android. Edit: (actually it had gone all the way to -15) and seems that this website has been still stuck at -8 upvotes at the moment of this comment and this link has also been the proof for me to finally see/confirm this as the submission now has positive upvotes.

OuterVale 5mo ago
It is hardly a satisfying answer, but I haven't the foggiest what caused it. I submitted it the same as I've submitted many other submissions in the past.

aaron695 5mo ago

A guess would be it got a story flag -4 points. Then something happened that overrode the show score, which is not the same as the real score for stories. Like you did a edit? (after it got one flag, which would not be seen) (Random guess) [Edit] Up votes wouldn't change it until it got back to zero since -3 is not valid. The external -10 might be too many comments with a low score is not good

hans-l 5mo ago

Maybe there is an API to downvote posts and some bots found it? Edit: Actually I would wager that it’s some kind of automatic downvoting when the system detects bad votes or comments. Something like “friends shouldn’t vote”. Since we see voting on posts and not comments we could see it go negative.

bombcar 5mo ago
I suspect there’s downweights the system can apply - and if five people voted it up, the -5 downweight was applied, and then four of the upvotes were removed, you’d end up at -4.

throwanem 5mo ago

Not at all related, but I love your work! Your photographs betray a subtle, curious, particular, and respectful eye. Keep shooting!

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OuterVale 5mo ago
Thanks. That is really nice of you to say.
- throwanem 5mo ago
  My comment on the other thread meanwhile wasn't nice at all, but it was also misdirected, and meant to refer to Hacker News rather than your own site. (I like the style, too. It's good to see Helvetica get a deserved reevaluation, now that the millennial generation is aging out of even being able to imagine we are cool. Or ever were.) My own profile on this website may help elucidate my perspective on the matter. I'm both shadowbanned and have applied a hundred-year "noprocrast" countdown, and it's frankly embarrassing how little that actually does to get the website not to accept those few contributions I still care to make. It is as if the folks who run this place were getting a little desperate! - both for the "crowdsourced" unpaid work that goes into making this website worthy of interest, and for the last dwindling taste of what was once termed the "hacker spirit" by fringey weirdo ideologues like Stallman and Barlow. (The idea that HTTP GET requests must be idempotent for safety, for example, has totally passed by this site's implementors and maintainers, or maybe never made a dent. Hence the subject of this very thread!) In any case I regret the misplaced comment, and apologize for the dismay it likely caused. This website is embarrassing, and has just about run its course. Yours is not embarrassing at all, and I hope you're just getting started!