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They're mass surveilling the vulnerable Palestinians they're genociding, and now turning their eyes toward Lebanon and Syria.

raxxorraxor 5mo ago
Which is mostly on Lebanon and Syria, because they are the aggressors here. Or in case of Lebanon the largest militant group known to exist. Perhaps they aren't the largest any more since the latest war, but they are still formidable.
- za3faran 5mo ago
  No they're not the aggressors. Let's stop with the victim blaming.
  - raxxorraxor 5mo ago
    Hezbollah is an Iranian supported schiite fundamentalist militant group effectively controlling the south of Lebanon. Syria declared war on Israel right after its founding and it rejected multiple peace offerings since. They are anything but victims.
    - za3faran 5mo ago
      They are the victims. Hezbollah did not exist before the occupation. And Syria has the right to defend their neighbors against foreign invaders. https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/
      - raxxorraxor 5mo ago
        The "army of god" isn't in any way a victim, they are perpetrators of the highest order. The political goals of Hezbollah are only in-transparent to those that are blinded in their hatred of Israel for one reason or another.
        za3faran 5mo ago
        Hezb does not mean army, it means party or group. Secondly, they only came to be after the invasion. It's normal to hate invaders who have committed countless crimes against humanity, not "for one reason or another": https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/
        raxxorraxor 5mo ago
        Not true. It is a militant fundamentalist group. In contrast to Israel that often tries to avoid civilian targets, for Hezbollah terror is the goal. There is no excuse for that, they are what they themselves claim to be and no, they don't fight for anyone's freedom and are an extension of Iranian foreign policy. Israelis aren't invaders for that matter. Most were expelled from surrounding countries, Syria and Lebanon included. They have no claim or reason, just terror. Their security interest in Syria and Lebanon are fully justified.
        za3faran 5mo ago
        They are a resistance group that was formed after the occupation of Palestine. We've seen time and time again the israelis deliberately target and snipe civilians, it's very well documented and has been happening since the beginning of the invasion. Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. The invader terror regime is exposed, no justification for their crimes or interest in so called (greater israel): https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed
        dlubarov 5mo ago
        > Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. They published allegations from a questionable source with no evidence. I think most people would agree that "Israel trains dogs to rape on command" is rather absurd and implausible on its face.
      - jameshilliard 5mo ago
        > Hezbollah did not exist before the occupation. Israel occupied parts of Lebanon due to attacks by PLO terrorists prior to Hezbollah being founded. Israel did not invade Lebanon prior to being attacked.
urikaduri 5mo ago
Why would you need surveilance in a genocide? Seems contradictory.
- tdeck 5mo ago
  So there was no surveillance during the Holocaust then?
  - rbanffy 5mo ago
    I think the main difference is that the nazis built entire factories and supply chains to more effectively use their limited resources, while Israel, being funded largely by the US, has no such constraints and can use military equipment to, to use an American figure of language, shoot fish in a barrel. What the Israeli government is doing is, at best, unconscionable.
    - urikaduri 5mo ago
      Wow, this used to be the website with the smart comment section. Now its all David Duke fans.
      - rbanffy 5mo ago
        It impresses me because, in our trade, there is a stiff penalty for ignoring reality.
jameshilliard 5mo ago
> They're mass surveilling the vulnerable Palestinians This is mostly so that they can more accurately target Palestinian terrorist/militant groups that hide behind civilians(which is of course a war crime). > now turning their eyes toward Lebanon and Syria The Oct 7th attacks likely happened because they weren't keeping a close enough watch over Palestinians in Gaza and were overly focused on threats from Lebanon and Syria. Ultimately Israel's failure to monitor threats coming from Gaza greatly increased Palestinian civilian casualties due to a successful attack resulting in a much stronger Israeli response than a failed attack would have. Israel always considered Hezbollah to be a much bigger threat than Hamas so that's where they put most of their resources.
- rbanffy 5mo ago
  > This is mostly so that they can more accurately target Palestinian terrorist/militant groups that hide behind civilians(which is of course a war crime). The mass casualties of children are a strong indicator that the targeting is not accurate. Government officials and elected representatives have repeatedly advocated for the assassination of all Palestinians.
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raxxorraxor 5mo ago

Which is mostly on Lebanon and Syria, because they are the aggressors here. Or in case of Lebanon the largest militant group known to exist. Perhaps they aren't the largest any more since the latest war, but they are still formidable.

za3faran 5mo ago
No they're not the aggressors. Let's stop with the victim blaming.
- raxxorraxor 5mo ago
  Hezbollah is an Iranian supported schiite fundamentalist militant group effectively controlling the south of Lebanon. Syria declared war on Israel right after its founding and it rejected multiple peace offerings since. They are anything but victims.
  - za3faran 5mo ago
    They are the victims. Hezbollah did not exist before the occupation. And Syria has the right to defend their neighbors against foreign invaders. https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/
    - raxxorraxor 5mo ago
      The "army of god" isn't in any way a victim, they are perpetrators of the highest order. The political goals of Hezbollah are only in-transparent to those that are blinded in their hatred of Israel for one reason or another.
      - za3faran 5mo ago
        Hezb does not mean army, it means party or group. Secondly, they only came to be after the invasion. It's normal to hate invaders who have committed countless crimes against humanity, not "for one reason or another": https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/ https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed/
        raxxorraxor 5mo ago
        Not true. It is a militant fundamentalist group. In contrast to Israel that often tries to avoid civilian targets, for Hezbollah terror is the goal. There is no excuse for that, they are what they themselves claim to be and no, they don't fight for anyone's freedom and are an extension of Iranian foreign policy. Israelis aren't invaders for that matter. Most were expelled from surrounding countries, Syria and Lebanon included. They have no claim or reason, just terror. Their security interest in Syria and Lebanon are fully justified.
        za3faran 5mo ago
        They are a resistance group that was formed after the occupation of Palestine. We've seen time and time again the israelis deliberately target and snipe civilians, it's very well documented and has been happening since the beginning of the invasion. Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. The invader terror regime is exposed, no justification for their crimes or interest in so called (greater israel): https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed https://www.reddit.com/r/israelexposed
        dlubarov 5mo ago
        > Even the NYT recently published an article about how the israelies use dogs to rape Palestinians. They published allegations from a questionable source with no evidence. I think most people would agree that "Israel trains dogs to rape on command" is rather absurd and implausible on its face.
    - jameshilliard 5mo ago
      > Hezbollah did not exist before the occupation. Israel occupied parts of Lebanon due to attacks by PLO terrorists prior to Hezbollah being founded. Israel did not invade Lebanon prior to being attacked.

urikaduri 5mo ago

Why would you need surveilance in a genocide? Seems contradictory.

tdeck 5mo ago
So there was no surveillance during the Holocaust then?
- rbanffy 5mo ago
  I think the main difference is that the nazis built entire factories and supply chains to more effectively use their limited resources, while Israel, being funded largely by the US, has no such constraints and can use military equipment to, to use an American figure of language, shoot fish in a barrel. What the Israeli government is doing is, at best, unconscionable.
  - urikaduri 5mo ago
    Wow, this used to be the website with the smart comment section. Now its all David Duke fans.
    - rbanffy 5mo ago
      It impresses me because, in our trade, there is a stiff penalty for ignoring reality.

jameshilliard 5mo ago

> They're mass surveilling the vulnerable Palestinians This is mostly so that they can more accurately target Palestinian terrorist/militant groups that hide behind civilians(which is of course a war crime). > now turning their eyes toward Lebanon and Syria The Oct 7th attacks likely happened because they weren't keeping a close enough watch over Palestinians in Gaza and were overly focused on threats from Lebanon and Syria. Ultimately Israel's failure to monitor threats coming from Gaza greatly increased Palestinian civilian casualties due to a successful attack resulting in a much stronger Israeli response than a failed attack would have. Israel always considered Hezbollah to be a much bigger threat than Hamas so that's where they put most of their resources.

rbanffy 5mo ago
> This is mostly so that they can more accurately target Palestinian terrorist/militant groups that hide behind civilians(which is of course a war crime). The mass casualties of children are a strong indicator that the targeting is not accurate. Government officials and elected representatives have repeatedly advocated for the assassination of all Palestinians.
- deleted 5mo ago
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