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If PB shut down, then it could take bittorrent with it. But in the sense that a new protocol emerges, not in the sense that bittorrent stops working. Also note

by jlouis 18y ago

If PB shut down, then it could take bittorrent with it. But in the sense that a new protocol emerges, not in the sense that bittorrent stops working. Also note that there is a multitracker extension on the bittorrent protocol. And PB seems to use it.

cabalamat 18y ago
> But in the sense that a new protocol emerges, not in the sense that bittorrent stops working. I've often wondered how practical it would be to have a P2P protocol that only connects with people in one's social graph. For example, it could use someone's email, IM and facebook contacts, minus anyone they deem as untrustworthy. If such a system existed, it would be very hard for law enforcement to break into, as they would have to infiltrate people's social networks. Of course, if law enforcement could force people to turn traitor on their freinds and entrap them, that would make it easier to roll up such networks; but it's unlikely in democratic societies that people would let the government do that. The range of files available to be shared from one's immediate friends is going to be a lot less than what's out there on the whole internet, but if the protocol allowed requests to flow over multiple nodes, potentially a much larger set of files would be available. (Consider that everyone is no more than six handshakes from everyone else).
- cabalamat 18y ago
  I've just found this is called Friend-to-friend filesharing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend An extract: """A friend-to-friend (or F2F) computer network is a type of peer-to-peer network in which users only make direct connections with people they know. Passwords or digital signatures can be used for authentication. Many F2F networks support indirect anonymous or pseudonymous communication between users who do not know or trust one another. For example, a node in a friend-to-friend overlay can automatically forward a file (or a request for a file) anonymously between two friends, without telling either of them the other's name or IP address. These friends can in turn forward the same file (or request) to their own friends, and so on."""

by jlouis 18y ago

cabalamat 18y ago

> But in the sense that a new protocol emerges, not in the sense that bittorrent stops working. I've often wondered how practical it would be to have a P2P protocol that only connects with people in one's social graph. For example, it could use someone's email, IM and facebook contacts, minus anyone they deem as untrustworthy. If such a system existed, it would be very hard for law enforcement to break into, as they would have to infiltrate people's social networks. Of course, if law enforcement could force people to turn traitor on their freinds and entrap them, that would make it easier to roll up such networks; but it's unlikely in democratic societies that people would let the government do that. The range of files available to be shared from one's immediate friends is going to be a lot less than what's out there on the whole internet, but if the protocol allowed requests to flow over multiple nodes, potentially a much larger set of files would be available. (Consider that everyone is no more than six handshakes from everyone else).

cabalamat 18y ago
I've just found this is called Friend-to-friend filesharing: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Friend-to-friend An extract: """A friend-to-friend (or F2F) computer network is a type of peer-to-peer network in which users only make direct connections with people they know. Passwords or digital signatures can be used for authentication. Many F2F networks support indirect anonymous or pseudonymous communication between users who do not know or trust one another. For example, a node in a friend-to-friend overlay can automatically forward a file (or a request for a file) anonymously between two friends, without telling either of them the other's name or IP address. These friends can in turn forward the same file (or request) to their own friends, and so on."""