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> agent development, model engineering, AI-native workflows -- point directly at where large-enterprise demand is heading. I don't understand these words. Does

> agent development, model engineering, AI-native workflows -- point directly at where large-enterprise demand is heading. I don't understand these words. Does "AI-native workflow" mean vibe coding? I am now seeing a lot of roles asking for "AI-enabled engineers". And I am not sure what that means either. I am sort of afraid to ask because the answer will probably confuse me even more. Maybe it's my understanding of what LLMs are and how they work that makes these words mean very little to me.

2ndorderthought 5mo ago
Yea it's vibe/agentic coding. That's what about half of the current jobs are right now. It's really sad. Saw a vibe coder job today, 20bucks an hour
- scorpioxy 5mo ago
  Interesting. I saw contractor rates dropping here too. The ones I saw recently were at pre-pandemic levels so from 6 years ago. The large increase in cost of living from that time makes it even worse. The funny part is that the skills and experience that are being asked for are at a senior level. So I guess that would be senior level vibe coder at junior rates?
  - 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
    Management literally doesn't realize that you can't exactly vibe code a serious project? Maybe they just don't care and it's an experiment. Super low risk I guess, depending on the city they might pay the floor cleaner more than that.
AIorNot 5mo ago
Yup thats exactly what they want Cheaper younger people who dont think vibe coding is bad Is this a good idea - probably not
- asdfman123 5mo ago
  It's a mistake. What you really want is senior engineers vibe coding. It would be like hiring a junior to lead a team. They're the worst choice for that role.
  - bigstrat2003 5mo ago
    What you really want is nobody vibe coding, because then your stuff will actually work. But that doesn't get the stock price to go up by announcing your "AI focus".
- scorpioxy 5mo ago
  Vibe coded self driving cars sounds very interesting.
redsocksfan45 5mo ago
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johanneskanybal 5mo ago
I mean agentic coding is a thing but anyone could learn that in a day or week. So the idea of throwing away people that could be the most productive with ai of course make no sense. But it's big corporations, not everything has to make sense. It's most likely a dressed up pure cost saving framed in 2026-lingo.
- scorpioxy 5mo ago
  I was going to say that sounds like short term gain for long term pain. But I'm guessing if there are any issues in the future, the government would just bail them out.
derbOac 5mo ago
FWIW, I interpreted the article as saying they're not looking for vibe coding, but AI model development per se: "...In practical terms, GM is looking for people who know how to build with AI from the ground up — designing the systems, training the models, and engineering the pipelines — not just use AI as a productivity tool."
- drivebyhooting 5mo ago
  I can guarantee you GM is not training any of their own models.
renyicircle 5mo ago
You can just check any of the vacancies on their website to see what they're looking for. Example: AI Agent Engineer (https://search-careers.gm.com/en/jobs/jr-202606937/ai-agent-engineer/ https://search-careers.gm.com/en/jobs/jr-202606937/ai-agent-...) > We are seeking an AI Agent Engineer to design, build, and operationalize AI-powered agents that enhance employee productivity and decision-making in a complex enterprise environment. The ideal candidate combines strong AI/ML foundations, hands-on experience with agent frameworks, and a pragmatic approach to delivering business value in partnership with cross-functional teams. Does not look like pure vibe-coding to me. More like developing wrappers over LLMs.
- prewett 5mo ago
  Based on that description, we still have no idea what they are looking for, since it the only meaningful words in the first sentence are "design", "build", and "AI-powered agents". "Operationalize" isn't even a word, and "enhance employee productivity and decision-making" communicates nothing, except maybe that this is tools- or HR-oriented and not product-oriented. "Complex enterprise environment" can be omitted. I would definitely pass on this job.
  - renyicircle 5mo ago
    I didn't want to paste all the job requirements from that link here, but fair point.
salawat 5mo ago
AI-ensbled engineers == any engineer without sufficient life experience to inherently tell that delegating huge swathes of implementation to a stochastic parrot is a dangerous and fundamentally unsafe idea. It's spun around "knowing how to use the tools" but somehow the whole part around "knowing when not to use them and refusing to use them in those contexts" is conveniently written out of the definition of AI enabled. I personally sed s_AI/ enabled/ engineers_engineers/ with/ unreasonable/ risk/ tolerance_g. When the business field turns you into a pariah because you refuse to bow to the uninitiated's desires tends to be my red line for an exit. I will not do reasonably foreseeable net harmful work for an industry that won't take no for an answer. My definition for reasonably foreseeable sets the minimum bar for analysis of consequence at enumerating 3rd and 4th degree consequences minimum. They don't want engineers. They want Operators for whom thinking isn't in the job description.

2ndorderthought 5mo ago

Yea it's vibe/agentic coding. That's what about half of the current jobs are right now. It's really sad. Saw a vibe coder job today, 20bucks an hour

scorpioxy 5mo ago
Interesting. I saw contractor rates dropping here too. The ones I saw recently were at pre-pandemic levels so from 6 years ago. The large increase in cost of living from that time makes it even worse. The funny part is that the skills and experience that are being asked for are at a senior level. So I guess that would be senior level vibe coder at junior rates?
- 2ndorderthought 5mo ago
  Management literally doesn't realize that you can't exactly vibe code a serious project? Maybe they just don't care and it's an experiment. Super low risk I guess, depending on the city they might pay the floor cleaner more than that.

AIorNot 5mo ago

Yup thats exactly what they want Cheaper younger people who dont think vibe coding is bad Is this a good idea - probably not

asdfman123 5mo ago
It's a mistake. What you really want is senior engineers vibe coding. It would be like hiring a junior to lead a team. They're the worst choice for that role.
- bigstrat2003 5mo ago
  What you really want is nobody vibe coding, because then your stuff will actually work. But that doesn't get the stock price to go up by announcing your "AI focus".
scorpioxy 5mo ago
Vibe coded self driving cars sounds very interesting.

redsocksfan45 5mo ago

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johanneskanybal 5mo ago

I mean agentic coding is a thing but anyone could learn that in a day or week. So the idea of throwing away people that could be the most productive with ai of course make no sense. But it's big corporations, not everything has to make sense. It's most likely a dressed up pure cost saving framed in 2026-lingo.

scorpioxy 5mo ago
I was going to say that sounds like short term gain for long term pain. But I'm guessing if there are any issues in the future, the government would just bail them out.

derbOac 5mo ago

FWIW, I interpreted the article as saying they're not looking for vibe coding, but AI model development per se: "...In practical terms, GM is looking for people who know how to build with AI from the ground up — designing the systems, training the models, and engineering the pipelines — not just use AI as a productivity tool."

drivebyhooting 5mo ago
I can guarantee you GM is not training any of their own models.

renyicircle 5mo ago

You can just check any of the vacancies on their website to see what they're looking for. Example: AI Agent Engineer (https://search-careers.gm.com/en/jobs/jr-202606937/ai-agent-engineer/ https://search-careers.gm.com/en/jobs/jr-202606937/ai-agent-...) > We are seeking an AI Agent Engineer to design, build, and operationalize AI-powered agents that enhance employee productivity and decision-making in a complex enterprise environment. The ideal candidate combines strong AI/ML foundations, hands-on experience with agent frameworks, and a pragmatic approach to delivering business value in partnership with cross-functional teams. Does not look like pure vibe-coding to me. More like developing wrappers over LLMs.

prewett 5mo ago
Based on that description, we still have no idea what they are looking for, since it the only meaningful words in the first sentence are "design", "build", and "AI-powered agents". "Operationalize" isn't even a word, and "enhance employee productivity and decision-making" communicates nothing, except maybe that this is tools- or HR-oriented and not product-oriented. "Complex enterprise environment" can be omitted. I would definitely pass on this job.
- renyicircle 5mo ago
  I didn't want to paste all the job requirements from that link here, but fair point.

salawat 5mo ago

AI-ensbled engineers == any engineer without sufficient life experience to inherently tell that delegating huge swathes of implementation to a stochastic parrot is a dangerous and fundamentally unsafe idea. It's spun around "knowing how to use the tools" but somehow the whole part around "knowing when not to use them and refusing to use them in those contexts" is conveniently written out of the definition of AI enabled. I personally sed s_AI/ enabled/ engineers_engineers/ with/ unreasonable/ risk/ tolerance_g. When the business field turns you into a pariah because you refuse to bow to the uninitiated's desires tends to be my red line for an exit. I will not do reasonably foreseeable net harmful work for an industry that won't take no for an answer. My definition for reasonably foreseeable sets the minimum bar for analysis of consequence at enumerating 3rd and 4th degree consequences minimum. They don't want engineers. They want Operators for whom thinking isn't in the job description.