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> the webpage being hosted by cloudflare, which is just a marketing page and a login portal thus being used for illegal and harmful activities right? > Cloudf

by lucb1e 5mo ago

> the webpage being hosted by cloudflare, which is just a marketing page and a login portal thus being used for illegal and harmful activities right? > Cloudflare retains the right (but not the obligation) to block content from its Distributed Web Gateway that Cloudflare determines (in its sole discretion) to be illegal, harmful Not that I have any hope for TOS violation claims. I've learned early on in life that people generally don't care in life if you violate rules they invented if they're not impacted themselves. They do care if they violate someone else's rules and there is a chance of repercussions. There are exceptions, quite a few hosting companies in fact, but Cloudflare so far hasn't acted like a party that has the good of the web in its interest (even when strictly speaking of whom they offer services to despite them doing harm). Just wanted to point out that the cited clause, assuming it is correct as stated above, could be applied at Cloudflare's discretion if they so wished

john_strinlai 5mo ago
>thus being used for illegal and harmful activities right? neither the login portal page nor the marketing page are illegal. >Cloudflare so far hasn't acted like a party that has the good of the web in its interest for a lot of reasons, i generally agree with this statement. however, for this specific reason (maintaining a content-neutral approach, instead of playing content-police), i could not disagree more. cloudflare making hosting decisions based on the legal content of your site would be a huge disservice to the internet.
- fragmede 5mo ago
  What's inside the login portal? I honestly don't know and am genuinely asking but the article didn't seem to go into it, but if the login portal leads to a page with a btc/other crypto address and a text box where the attacker enters ubuntu.com and a submit button labeled DDoS, should that bit be legal?

by lucb1e 5mo ago

john_strinlai 5mo ago

>thus being used for illegal and harmful activities right? neither the login portal page nor the marketing page are illegal. >Cloudflare so far hasn't acted like a party that has the good of the web in its interest for a lot of reasons, i generally agree with this statement. however, for this specific reason (maintaining a content-neutral approach, instead of playing content-police), i could not disagree more. cloudflare making hosting decisions based on the legal content of your site would be a huge disservice to the internet.

fragmede 5mo ago
What's inside the login portal? I honestly don't know and am genuinely asking but the article didn't seem to go into it, but if the login portal leads to a page with a btc/other crypto address and a text box where the attacker enters ubuntu.com and a submit button labeled DDoS, should that bit be legal?