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Why don't you show us how AI will not create abject poverty? How are we not going to be begging whoever controls chip fabs and electrical plants for compute to

Why don't you show us how AI will not create abject poverty? How are we not going to be begging whoever controls chip fabs and electrical plants for compute tokens? HOW!? EXPLAIN IT.

Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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- JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
  > Settle down, toddler Please don’t do this.
  - Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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    - JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
      > You want people to stick to social norms, call it both ways Oh, I downvoted both of you. But I only flagged you because of the name calling, which is against the guidelines [1]. When I flag I like to give the person on the other side a note, in case they genuinely didn’t know. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
      - Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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- whatshisface 5mo ago
  How would improved standards and reliability make the AI alternative to white collar jobs less appealing?
  - Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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    - whatshisface 5mo ago
      Quality standards benefit the buyers, who on the face of it are corporations replacing representative's constituents with capital investments not made in their districts, not the constituents themselves. I would expect there to be support for limiting quality somehow, maybe by enforcing copyright law (actually legal training datasets are a lot harder to obtain). Regulatory burdens do obstruct commercial investment, but the burden primarily falls on small participants who in the AI market are far from posing a threat to employment. Only the largest firms can threaten the wage and salary model of organization.
- jklinger410 5mo ago
  > you all didn't do the political action work to put me on the hook for your healthcare so thoughts and prayers, HNers. Ah so your answer is AI will cause most people to live in abject poverty. Good talk.
  - Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
    AI makes enough stuff no need to care about money. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48099117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48099117 But go ahead and commit to the dogma money must continue to exist even though the financial system is merely a socialized ethno object not immutable physics. I forget my lived experience is atypical among engineers. Before getting an EE degree (which I have not leveraged in over a decade tbf) I worked to live in ruralandia fixing old tractors electrical issues for poor farmers (which turned me on to EE), building barns, homes, rebuilding cars, growing crops, slaughtering livestock for food. I also play 3 musical instruments fluently. I have a shit ton of experience and muscle memory for doing without money. Get good scrub? Do not put all your eggs in a single skills basket. End of day you aren't in a soup kitchen feeding the hungry and exploiting child labor to avoid sewing a shirt. I guess you get what you give, right? :shrug: Guess you all should not have ignored politics this entire time. Live and learn. Thoughts and prayers, fellow Americans.

Why don't you show us how AI will not create abject poverty? How are we not going to be begging whoever controls chip fabs and electrical plants for compute tokens? HOW!? EXPLAIN IT.

Sh0000reZ 5mo ago

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JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
> Settle down, toddler Please don’t do this.
- Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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  - JumpCrisscross 5mo ago
    > You want people to stick to social norms, call it both ways Oh, I downvoted both of you. But I only flagged you because of the name calling, which is against the guidelines [1]. When I flag I like to give the person on the other side a note, in case they genuinely didn’t know. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
    - Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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whatshisface 5mo ago
How would improved standards and reliability make the AI alternative to white collar jobs less appealing?
- Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
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  - whatshisface 5mo ago
    Quality standards benefit the buyers, who on the face of it are corporations replacing representative's constituents with capital investments not made in their districts, not the constituents themselves. I would expect there to be support for limiting quality somehow, maybe by enforcing copyright law (actually legal training datasets are a lot harder to obtain). Regulatory burdens do obstruct commercial investment, but the burden primarily falls on small participants who in the AI market are far from posing a threat to employment. Only the largest firms can threaten the wage and salary model of organization.
jklinger410 5mo ago
> you all didn't do the political action work to put me on the hook for your healthcare so thoughts and prayers, HNers. Ah so your answer is AI will cause most people to live in abject poverty. Good talk.
- Sh0000reZ 5mo ago
  AI makes enough stuff no need to care about money. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48099117 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48099117 But go ahead and commit to the dogma money must continue to exist even though the financial system is merely a socialized ethno object not immutable physics. I forget my lived experience is atypical among engineers. Before getting an EE degree (which I have not leveraged in over a decade tbf) I worked to live in ruralandia fixing old tractors electrical issues for poor farmers (which turned me on to EE), building barns, homes, rebuilding cars, growing crops, slaughtering livestock for food. I also play 3 musical instruments fluently. I have a shit ton of experience and muscle memory for doing without money. Get good scrub? Do not put all your eggs in a single skills basket. End of day you aren't in a soup kitchen feeding the hungry and exploiting child labor to avoid sewing a shirt. I guess you get what you give, right? :shrug: Guess you all should not have ignored politics this entire time. Live and learn. Thoughts and prayers, fellow Americans.