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> Asinine Comments Are Bad You're right!

by rationalist 5mo ago

righthand 5mo ago
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- rationalist 5mo ago
  You've met every cop, everywhere then, wow! Please tell me how you met all of those cops, I would love to have the ability to travel all over the U.S. and meet every single one and talk with them and observe them work. That's a monumental task, congrats on you for doing that! That is so selfless of you! I see your username is "righthand", did you know I met every single left-handed person in the U.S. and they're all bad! They cover for each other, including the one who is the only left-handed person in a small town in Washington state, I just know he's covering for all of the left-handed people in Florida. I almost forgot: All Tow Truck Drivers Are Bad. They should be towing each other for parking in illegal spots. All Doctors are bad too, they should be ratting each other out left-and-right for all the malpractice they commit. All HN users are bad, we are enabling all of the bad things in tech companies etc.
  - righthand 5mo ago
    It has nothing to do with the cops as individuals and some of them being “nice” or not. It has everything to do with the normalization and systemization. If you come to Nyc and live here you will see that the “cops are bearueacrats with guns” stigma is pretty much true. A lot of the lower crime areas have cops looking for a minor infraction to write up a ticket (often a desk appearance ticket that usually gets thrown out by the courts). They will attempt to stop and frisk you even though you can deny it and even though it’s illegal. So here we have a system of pointless ticketing because stops and tickets are how they get a promotion. In high crime neighborhoods they take this tactic to new levels. So no, I dont consider cops good people because as soon as one gets caught they back each other up. As I stated previously they soured their own image with decades of backing bad actor cops up and normalizing bad behavior. Left handed people (I’m one of them) don’t have a history of systematic violence and abuse of peoples rights as enabled by the government. Left handed people dont have a union to corral around and get protections when they murder someone. Left handed people often don’t kill someone or steal their belongings then turn around and say “I was just doing my job, give us $1B more to build a surveillance dragnet and bail out our bad actors”. Left handed people don’t violently kettle and beat protestors asking for basic reform of left handed people. > All Tow Truck Drivers Are Bad. They should be towing each other for parking in illegal spots. Fun fact tow truck drivers have recently become filled with bad actors because cops do not enforce traffic law in Nyc and have no problem with tow truck drivers scamming people: https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-puts-tow-truck-operators-on-notice-following-gothamist-investigation https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-puts-tow-truck-operators-on-n... > All Doctors are bad too My doctor does his best to double dip on telehealth + “come in for tests”. Because a lot of clinics have devolved into sending health data to labs. What should be a “come in for tests” ends with an additional $75 telehealth call where my doctor reads the results over the phone. I personally don’t think you’re going to convince anyone saying ACAB that “cOpS ArE aCtUaLlY nIcE gUyS oNcE YoU sHrUg oFf SySteMatIc StAtE VioLeNcE aNd vIoLaTiNG RiGhtS tHeY eNAbLeD fOr DecADes! jUsT iGnOrE tHe pOliCe stAtE.” And we havent even begun to discuss “civil forfeiture” theft scam that is relative to this article. All Cops Are Basterds
    - rationalist 5mo ago
      It seems like you are very invested in this, and a discussion here is probably not going to change that, nor my opinion. Yes, there are a lot of bad cops. No, not every single cop is bad. (You should see my other comment about Civil Asset Forfeiture, where you will see that I am aware of it, and it is used in evil ways.) I would never condemn a good lone cop in a small town who has not seen any illegal, corrupt, or otherwise anything less than professional behavior by neighboring jurisdictions, as you seem to. My default opinion of people is not that of hate. Nor do I judge people by prejudices. Since another user here (who made up something to try to make me look bad) picked on my username, I think it is more rational to judge individuals by their own actions and not judge people you've never met by the actions of others.
  - wredcoll 5mo ago
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    - rationalist 5mo ago
      I did not say or imply that at all. Please do not put words in my mouth.
      - array_key_first 5mo ago
        You did say that, or rather implied it. You claimed this person must know every single cop, but you just admitted right now that actually you don't need to know every single cop to prove that all cops commit crimes. Because covering up for someone else is also a crime, and all cops presumably cover up. Arguably, just the simple act of existing as a cop is perpetuating injustice of the system. So it's sort of self proving, or proven by definition. By definition of what cops are and what they are allowed to do, all cops must be bastards. If they weren't, they wouldn't be cops!
        rationalist 5mo ago
        > you just admitted right now that actually you don't need to know every single cop to prove that all cops commit crimes. Because covering up for someone else is also a crime, and all cops presumably cover up. Arguably, just the simple act of existing as a cop is perpetuating injustice of the system. ??? No, that is not a logical at all. Nor did I admit that. Please stop. You keep assuming things that are not true about what I've clearly written.
        array_key_first 5mo ago
        Yes, you did admit that, by implication. To replay what exactly happened in this conversation. Person A: It's almost not worth commenting on the irony of someone using the name "rationalist" failing to understand basic concepts like "covering up a crime is also a crime". Reduced: "you do not understand that covering up a crime is also a crime". You: I did not say or imply that. Implication: I do understand that covering up a crime is also a crime, and do not imply otherwise. Implication: since covering up a crime is also a crime, you admit that you do not need to prove every cop has committed a crime themselves to be a criminal. I'm not assuming anything, I'm only taking your words at face value. What's happening is you're writing things without using your brain to think about what you're writing. So, if what I'm saying sounds stupid or obvious... uh, okay, reflect on that. Regardless, you're missing the forest for the trees here. You didn't bother to actually reply to anything I said, probably because you thought this sad little response would be easier. The ACAB viewpoint comes from the preposition that policing in the US is systemicly or institutionally broken and fueled by injustice. Thereby, any willing participation in it is, by definition, an act of injustice. It's sort of how all jesters are silly. To be a jester, you must be silly, so by definition of a jester all jesters are silly.

> Asinine Comments Are Bad You're right!

righthand 5mo ago

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rationalist 5mo ago
You've met every cop, everywhere then, wow! Please tell me how you met all of those cops, I would love to have the ability to travel all over the U.S. and meet every single one and talk with them and observe them work. That's a monumental task, congrats on you for doing that! That is so selfless of you! I see your username is "righthand", did you know I met every single left-handed person in the U.S. and they're all bad! They cover for each other, including the one who is the only left-handed person in a small town in Washington state, I just know he's covering for all of the left-handed people in Florida. I almost forgot: All Tow Truck Drivers Are Bad. They should be towing each other for parking in illegal spots. All Doctors are bad too, they should be ratting each other out left-and-right for all the malpractice they commit. All HN users are bad, we are enabling all of the bad things in tech companies etc.
- righthand 5mo ago
  It has nothing to do with the cops as individuals and some of them being “nice” or not. It has everything to do with the normalization and systemization. If you come to Nyc and live here you will see that the “cops are bearueacrats with guns” stigma is pretty much true. A lot of the lower crime areas have cops looking for a minor infraction to write up a ticket (often a desk appearance ticket that usually gets thrown out by the courts). They will attempt to stop and frisk you even though you can deny it and even though it’s illegal. So here we have a system of pointless ticketing because stops and tickets are how they get a promotion. In high crime neighborhoods they take this tactic to new levels. So no, I dont consider cops good people because as soon as one gets caught they back each other up. As I stated previously they soured their own image with decades of backing bad actor cops up and normalizing bad behavior. Left handed people (I’m one of them) don’t have a history of systematic violence and abuse of peoples rights as enabled by the government. Left handed people dont have a union to corral around and get protections when they murder someone. Left handed people often don’t kill someone or steal their belongings then turn around and say “I was just doing my job, give us $1B more to build a surveillance dragnet and bail out our bad actors”. Left handed people don’t violently kettle and beat protestors asking for basic reform of left handed people. > All Tow Truck Drivers Are Bad. They should be towing each other for parking in illegal spots. Fun fact tow truck drivers have recently become filled with bad actors because cops do not enforce traffic law in Nyc and have no problem with tow truck drivers scamming people: https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-puts-tow-truck-operators-on-notice-following-gothamist-investigation https://gothamist.com/news/nyc-puts-tow-truck-operators-on-n... > All Doctors are bad too My doctor does his best to double dip on telehealth + “come in for tests”. Because a lot of clinics have devolved into sending health data to labs. What should be a “come in for tests” ends with an additional $75 telehealth call where my doctor reads the results over the phone. I personally don’t think you’re going to convince anyone saying ACAB that “cOpS ArE aCtUaLlY nIcE gUyS oNcE YoU sHrUg oFf SySteMatIc StAtE VioLeNcE aNd vIoLaTiNG RiGhtS tHeY eNAbLeD fOr DecADes! jUsT iGnOrE tHe pOliCe stAtE.” And we havent even begun to discuss “civil forfeiture” theft scam that is relative to this article. All Cops Are Basterds
  - rationalist 5mo ago
    It seems like you are very invested in this, and a discussion here is probably not going to change that, nor my opinion. Yes, there are a lot of bad cops. No, not every single cop is bad. (You should see my other comment about Civil Asset Forfeiture, where you will see that I am aware of it, and it is used in evil ways.) I would never condemn a good lone cop in a small town who has not seen any illegal, corrupt, or otherwise anything less than professional behavior by neighboring jurisdictions, as you seem to. My default opinion of people is not that of hate. Nor do I judge people by prejudices. Since another user here (who made up something to try to make me look bad) picked on my username, I think it is more rational to judge individuals by their own actions and not judge people you've never met by the actions of others.
- wredcoll 5mo ago
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  - rationalist 5mo ago
    I did not say or imply that at all. Please do not put words in my mouth.
    - array_key_first 5mo ago
      You did say that, or rather implied it. You claimed this person must know every single cop, but you just admitted right now that actually you don't need to know every single cop to prove that all cops commit crimes. Because covering up for someone else is also a crime, and all cops presumably cover up. Arguably, just the simple act of existing as a cop is perpetuating injustice of the system. So it's sort of self proving, or proven by definition. By definition of what cops are and what they are allowed to do, all cops must be bastards. If they weren't, they wouldn't be cops!
      - rationalist 5mo ago
        > you just admitted right now that actually you don't need to know every single cop to prove that all cops commit crimes. Because covering up for someone else is also a crime, and all cops presumably cover up. Arguably, just the simple act of existing as a cop is perpetuating injustice of the system. ??? No, that is not a logical at all. Nor did I admit that. Please stop. You keep assuming things that are not true about what I've clearly written.
        array_key_first 5mo ago
        Yes, you did admit that, by implication. To replay what exactly happened in this conversation. Person A: It's almost not worth commenting on the irony of someone using the name "rationalist" failing to understand basic concepts like "covering up a crime is also a crime". Reduced: "you do not understand that covering up a crime is also a crime". You: I did not say or imply that. Implication: I do understand that covering up a crime is also a crime, and do not imply otherwise. Implication: since covering up a crime is also a crime, you admit that you do not need to prove every cop has committed a crime themselves to be a criminal. I'm not assuming anything, I'm only taking your words at face value. What's happening is you're writing things without using your brain to think about what you're writing. So, if what I'm saying sounds stupid or obvious... uh, okay, reflect on that. Regardless, you're missing the forest for the trees here. You didn't bother to actually reply to anything I said, probably because you thought this sad little response would be easier. The ACAB viewpoint comes from the preposition that policing in the US is systemicly or institutionally broken and fueled by injustice. Thereby, any willing participation in it is, by definition, an act of injustice. It's sort of how all jesters are silly. To be a jester, you must be silly, so by definition of a jester all jesters are silly.