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> $150 house cleaner To clarify, in the OP that's $150 flat rate per cleaning, not per hour. If you've tried to hire a housecleaner recently, that seems a bit

by mmooss 6mo ago

> $150 house cleaner To clarify, in the OP that's $150 flat rate per cleaning, not per hour. If you've tried to hire a housecleaner recently, that seems a bit below average (depending on the apartment). It's not an extravagance - you'd have to spend more time doing it yourself, which takes you away from buidling up your paying work and future. Prices are going up everywhere, and the contemporary business theory is to maximize extraction from the customer, not to compete (on price, for example). Uber-wealthy capitalists do it; I'm happy for the housecleaners doing it. Not only do I not mind them getting the money, but they have to pay all their rising bills just like everyone else.

pickleglitch 6mo ago
$150/cleaning is a perfectly reasonable rate for a housekeeper, but the fact remains, broke people can't afford that. Broke people can't afford servants. Broke people either do it themselves or live in a dirty house.
- mmooss 6mo ago
  The OP also said they had $14 in their bank account. This whole thing seems like a not uncommon pattern in our society: shaming poor people for not living acetic lives, as if they should suffer to qualify as the 'good' kind of poor.
  - Aurornis 6mo ago
    > shaming poor people for not living acetic lives, as if they should suffer to qualify as the 'good' kind of poor. You're missing the point that if she wasn't spending $600/month on house cleaning, she wouldn't have only $14 left in her bank account. Going without a house cleaner is not an ascetic lifestyle. This is getting silly.
    - mmooss 6mo ago
      > $600/month The article doesn't say it's weekly. Some people I know with housecleaners are do it monthly.
      - pickleglitch 6mo ago
        Look, I've been broke. I've been "figure out how to make a rotisserie chicken feed us for a week" broke. I've been "counting literal pennies to figure out which groceries you can buy" broke. This isn't shaming someone for spending money on candy or soda, or even a cell phone or a flat screen TV. I even agree that $150 a month is not exactly extravagance, but unless you are disabled, hiring a housekeeper is a major luxury. It's a recurring cost, be it $150/week or $150/month, that can easily be eliminated, and anyone who has been poor would not think twice about eliminating it when things get tight. And the point isn't that this person is or isn't the "right" kind of poor. It's that they come off as someone cosplaying poverty, and it undermines the premise of the whole article.
        mmooss 6mo ago
        > cosplaying poverty Again, they have $14 in their bank account.
mvdtnz 6mo ago
If you are paying a cleaner any amount of money to clean your personal space then you're not strapped for cash.
Aurornis 6mo ago
> It's not an extravagance - you'd have to spend more time doing it yourself, which takes you away from buidling up your paying work and future. In the context of someone complaining about their $14 bank account balance and their job paying $32 per hour that isn't giving them enough work, spending $600 per month on a housecleaner is an extravagance.
- mmooss 6mo ago
  > $600 per month The article doesn't say it's weekly. Some people I know with housecleaners are do it monthly.

by mmooss 6mo ago

pickleglitch 6mo ago

$150/cleaning is a perfectly reasonable rate for a housekeeper, but the fact remains, broke people can't afford that. Broke people can't afford servants. Broke people either do it themselves or live in a dirty house.

mmooss 6mo ago
The OP also said they had $14 in their bank account. This whole thing seems like a not uncommon pattern in our society: shaming poor people for not living acetic lives, as if they should suffer to qualify as the 'good' kind of poor.
- Aurornis 6mo ago
  > shaming poor people for not living acetic lives, as if they should suffer to qualify as the 'good' kind of poor. You're missing the point that if she wasn't spending $600/month on house cleaning, she wouldn't have only $14 left in her bank account. Going without a house cleaner is not an ascetic lifestyle. This is getting silly.
  - mmooss 6mo ago
    > $600/month The article doesn't say it's weekly. Some people I know with housecleaners are do it monthly.
    - pickleglitch 6mo ago
      Look, I've been broke. I've been "figure out how to make a rotisserie chicken feed us for a week" broke. I've been "counting literal pennies to figure out which groceries you can buy" broke. This isn't shaming someone for spending money on candy or soda, or even a cell phone or a flat screen TV. I even agree that $150 a month is not exactly extravagance, but unless you are disabled, hiring a housekeeper is a major luxury. It's a recurring cost, be it $150/week or $150/month, that can easily be eliminated, and anyone who has been poor would not think twice about eliminating it when things get tight. And the point isn't that this person is or isn't the "right" kind of poor. It's that they come off as someone cosplaying poverty, and it undermines the premise of the whole article.
      - mmooss 6mo ago
        > cosplaying poverty Again, they have $14 in their bank account.

mvdtnz 6mo ago

If you are paying a cleaner any amount of money to clean your personal space then you're not strapped for cash.

Aurornis 6mo ago

> It's not an extravagance - you'd have to spend more time doing it yourself, which takes you away from buidling up your paying work and future. In the context of someone complaining about their $14 bank account balance and their job paying $32 per hour that isn't giving them enough work, spending $600 per month on a housecleaner is an extravagance.

mmooss 6mo ago
> $600 per month The article doesn't say it's weekly. Some people I know with housecleaners are do it monthly.