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I understand how business reality requires Apple to push at least some of the carriers' bullshit onto the customers. But the second a device is "unlocked", all

by roc 14y ago

I understand how business reality requires Apple to push at least some of the carriers' bullshit onto the customers. But the second a device is "unlocked", all this nonsense needs to be removed from it. There's no defensible reason for an "unlocked" iPhone to still be subject to ATT/VZW's anti-consumer preferences.

sneak 14y ago
All iPads are unlocked. My iPad won't let me Facetime over 3G, and instead gives me a dialog telling me to call AT&T. This is after "Facetime over 3G" was promoted (by Apple) as one of the big features of iOS6. I'm almost willing to switch to a shittier UI/software just to not have to deal with thieving fucks like this.
- recuter 14y ago
  Curios, so I checked the website: "iPad with Wi-Fi + Cellular can roam worldwide on GSM/UMTS networks. .. When you travel internationally, you can use a micro-SIM card from a local carrier." However, they still make you specify your carrier (at&t/verizon/sprint). So, you are getting a carrier-flavored version when you buy an iPad in the US and it is only unlocked for travel? That is terrible. I am vexed.
  - sneak 14y ago
    A few things: 1) Your iPad, purchased in the US with a carrier selection, comes from the factory with a SIM card in it. This can be used to activate a prepaid data plan _on the device_ right out of the box - via that same carrier's network. (They are minimally provisioned before you get it.) 2) The Sprint/VZW iPads also support CDMA for 3G in addition to LTE (4G) and HSPA+ (GSM 3G). The "ATT" ones do not. (They are different hardware models.) 3) They are all unlocked, GSM-wise.
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- edandersen 14y ago
  > All iPads are unlocked. Not true. Japan has the dubious honor of being the only country with locked iPads. Of Japan country-coded SIMs, they will only work with the single official carrier in the country due to a software lock. They still get to say 'unlocked' though, but the devices only work on overseas networks, not other compatible networks in the same country.

by roc 14y ago

sneak 14y ago

All iPads are unlocked. My iPad won't let me Facetime over 3G, and instead gives me a dialog telling me to call AT&T. This is after "Facetime over 3G" was promoted (by Apple) as one of the big features of iOS6. I'm almost willing to switch to a shittier UI/software just to not have to deal with thieving fucks like this.

recuter 14y ago
Curios, so I checked the website: "iPad with Wi-Fi + Cellular can roam worldwide on GSM/UMTS networks. .. When you travel internationally, you can use a micro-SIM card from a local carrier." However, they still make you specify your carrier (at&t/verizon/sprint). So, you are getting a carrier-flavored version when you buy an iPad in the US and it is only unlocked for travel? That is terrible. I am vexed.
- sneak 14y ago
  A few things: 1) Your iPad, purchased in the US with a carrier selection, comes from the factory with a SIM card in it. This can be used to activate a prepaid data plan _on the device_ right out of the box - via that same carrier's network. (They are minimally provisioned before you get it.) 2) The Sprint/VZW iPads also support CDMA for 3G in addition to LTE (4G) and HSPA+ (GSM 3G). The "ATT" ones do not. (They are different hardware models.) 3) They are all unlocked, GSM-wise.
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edandersen 14y ago
> All iPads are unlocked. Not true. Japan has the dubious honor of being the only country with locked iPads. Of Japan country-coded SIMs, they will only work with the single official carrier in the country due to a software lock. They still get to say 'unlocked' though, but the devices only work on overseas networks, not other compatible networks in the same country.