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My concern would be whether creating that software pays enough to keep up with skyrocketing costs of living. In the past, the jobs created by automation have ge
by harimau777 6mo ago
My concern would be whether creating that software pays enough to keep up with skyrocketing costs of living. In the past, the jobs created by automation have generally been lower paid with less autonomy.
- lanstin 6mo agoThis problem is not a software engineering problem nor an AI problem but a problem of the balance of power between working hard vs. investing. If the people who believe in working hard organize and slow down the tendency to rig everything for investors, then the markets should stabilize at a more generally prosperous place.
- rayiner 6mo agoThe balance of power is dictated by economic facts, not by organizing or politics. Auto workers in 1950 weren't better organized than auto workers in 2026. They just had more leverage because they weren't competing with auto workers in China. Likewise, Silicon Valley isn't paying people writing web apps $$$ because those workers are organized. They are doing it because they don't have a feasible alternative. If AI enables them to do more with less, they'll take that option.
- lanstin 6mo agoAre you saying that auto labor unions can't go into other places and organize the people there for higher salaries and less wretched conditions? Or that organizing doesn't increase the power of the hard working people? Economic facts are partially determined by human factors such as the supply curve for labor and information flow amongst sellers or buyers for various goods.
- xyzzyz 5mo agoYes, and by shifting the labor supply curve you can make the laborers worse off, because it will often shift the supply curve of the product they’re making. If labor unions make you pay your workers more, you might need to raise the prices, which will make you less competitive, and reduce your sales, which can result in layoffs, or in preventing new workers from gaining employment.
- aleph_minus_one 6mo ago> My concern would be whether creating that software pays enough to keep up with skyrocketing costs of living. You might need to relocate to a place with much lower costs of living. This was the idea behind remote working discussed during COVID-19 times: - the company can pay less money because the employee is living at a much cheaper place than the expensive city where the company is located - on the other hand, even with a smaller salary, the employee has more money at the end of the month because of the smaller costs of living So both sides win.
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- aleph_minus_one 6mo ago> Unfortunately, in America places with low cost of living are generally, to put it diplomatically, unpleasant places to live. This will change for the better if more and more educated people relocate there.
- nly 6mo agoAnd then those areas become more expensive...
- SoftTalker 6mo agoBut at least stereotyping happens everywhere!
- selimthegrim 6mo agoI like how the assumption was they were all white, Christian and rural.
- Natfan 6mo agobut moving to a lower COL area can reduce that amount of public and private services one gets access to, no? network connectivity will, for example, likely be worse out in the sticks