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> Here's a statistic: 99 percent of all achievements in computer science come from men. Ummm....wouldn't that be because ~99% of all coders are men?

mynameishere 19y ago
Ummm...no raw numbers http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:_0JxL7T75-sJ:www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.pdf+occupation+statistics+by+gender&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:_0JxL7T75-sJ:www.bls.go... versus prominent programmers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers I would suggest if you strip off some of the dubious or ceremonial entries ("ada") the picture gets worse still.
- jamiequint 19y ago
  Computer Programmers .... 3.9% I count 9 women out of about 230 which comes out to... 3.91% What is the point you are trying to make anyway? Are you going to go on to tell me black people suck at programming to because they don't compose 25% of that list (but do compose 25% of graduates in CS from the stats you linked)? Get over yourself.
  - mynameishere 19y ago
    Women comprise 25.3 percent, not 3.9 percent.
    - jamiequint 19y ago
      fair enough, I misread the chart, but my last statement still stands (with numbers swapped 3.9% black, 25% female). Your point?
      - bvttf 19y ago
        His point was that female programmers aren't superior to male ones. Remember he quoted "women are better programmers because they have less ego". Which is a huge load on both counts.
        Tichy 19y ago
        Replying to that by "no, men are better programmers than women" doesn't seem the way to go. Especially in response to a rant about faulty statistics skills. That argument with 99% whatever certainly was extremely faulty (I can't even begin to describe how faulty, it is just waaaaaaay off). It just goes to show that some carefulness with statistics would be a good idea. Anyway, that response basically proved the point of the article.

mynameishere 19y ago

Ummm...no raw numbers http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:_0JxL7T75-sJ:www.bls.gov/cps/cpsaat11.pdf+occupation+statistics+by+gender&hl=en&ct=clnk&cd=1&gl=us&client=firefox-a http://64.233.169.104/search?q=cache:_0JxL7T75-sJ:www.bls.go... versus prominent programmers. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_programmers I would suggest if you strip off some of the dubious or ceremonial entries ("ada") the picture gets worse still.

jamiequint 19y ago
Computer Programmers .... 3.9% I count 9 women out of about 230 which comes out to... 3.91% What is the point you are trying to make anyway? Are you going to go on to tell me black people suck at programming to because they don't compose 25% of that list (but do compose 25% of graduates in CS from the stats you linked)? Get over yourself.
- mynameishere 19y ago
  Women comprise 25.3 percent, not 3.9 percent.
  - jamiequint 19y ago
    fair enough, I misread the chart, but my last statement still stands (with numbers swapped 3.9% black, 25% female). Your point?
    - bvttf 19y ago
      His point was that female programmers aren't superior to male ones. Remember he quoted "women are better programmers because they have less ego". Which is a huge load on both counts.
      - Tichy 19y ago
        Replying to that by "no, men are better programmers than women" doesn't seem the way to go. Especially in response to a rant about faulty statistics skills. That argument with 99% whatever certainly was extremely faulty (I can't even begin to describe how faulty, it is just waaaaaaay off). It just goes to show that some carefulness with statistics would be a good idea. Anyway, that response basically proved the point of the article.