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I, however, do look forward to a time when we can prompt our own TV shows. That second season that ruined your favorite show? Fix it. The second season that nev

I, however, do look forward to a time when we can prompt our own TV shows. That second season that ruined your favorite show? Fix it. The second season that never happened? Create it. Of course AI needs to get better still for that to be bearable for many of us, but I'm still excited at the idea!

voidpointer 5mo ago
Isn't the scenario you are describing the ultimate collapse of art and culture as we know it? If everyone sits at home and creates the content that they want, what do we talk about? How do we engage in shared culture if there is nothing to experience together?
- mantas 5mo ago
  Welcome to the life of fringe subcultures. Of course subcultures, even most fringe ones, still have some community. But even in generated content world, some people would end up with similar taste and that generated content being similar. They may even share that content and watch some of each other's content! And oh boy the joy of meeting that rare human who has similar taste! E.g. knowing some fringe band that created a demo tape 2 decades ago that you found in some strange torrent tracker. But yes, mass/pop culture as we know it would be dead. And IMO the world would be better off. I agree with other comments that may lead to people staying inside their comfort zone. But I think it's question of time when good portion of people would start sharing that content with other people. Expanding each others' imagination. And few that don't... Well, existing pop culture is not exactly good at expanding mind as well. And such decentralized content creation may be less prone to propaganda and other social control efforts.
- darkwater 5mo ago
  Well, that was a recent invention anyway - at least in Europe where I live. TVs did not really reach most of the households until late '70s and the shared pop culture based on movies (mostly from US), cartoons (mix from Japan and US), advertisements (usually national) was created quite fast. It's not an immutable fact of the human society.
  - mantas 5mo ago
    On top of that, I wonder if it wouldn't be for the better. 100 years ago many regions had distinct cultures. 200 years ago pretty much each village had a wee different culture. With slightly different fairy tales or songs and so on. Nowadays the culture gets standardised at a massive pace. If generative AI could put a stop on it... That'd definitely be an improvement.
    - voidpointer 5mo ago
      Maybe you have a point there. An optimistic outlook would be that AI allows people to create content that can compete with the polished, mass-produced, standardized stuff without the prohibitive budget requirements. The pessimistic view is that it leads to more isolation, where everyone only "creates" for themselves.
      - mantas 5mo ago
        I don't think it would be worse isolation than consuming standardized mass-produced content. Even a simple prompt, thinking what you want and so on is already the beginning of a creativity. Turning on TV/Netflix/whatever is not. Unless the problem is people isolation in way, that people would not consume standardized content that also, to some extent, standardize their mind. But in that case it's an isolation problem even without AI when people check out from mass culture and entertain themselves. Wether entirely solo or in small fringe subcultures. Which is kinda isolation if you look from 19th/20th century point-of-view when name of the game was to normalise all the regional cultures into bigger bodies of people. But is such isolation the wrong or a good kind of isolation? I'd lean towards the later.
trollbridge 5mo ago
I want to watch things that expand my imagination, rather than being limited by it.
maplethorpe 5mo ago
This + NFT integration will be the real game changer. Like it's Breaking Bad, except Walter White is decked out like one of your Slonks. Or it's Indiana Jones stealing a Bored Ape instead of the idol. Possibilities are endless.
- DonHopkins 5mo ago
  Did you miss the memo that NFTs are a scam for gullible suckers? And bored apes ... really? That actually appeals to you? Please be sarcastic! Line Goes Up – The Problem With NFTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g

voidpointer 5mo ago

Isn't the scenario you are describing the ultimate collapse of art and culture as we know it? If everyone sits at home and creates the content that they want, what do we talk about? How do we engage in shared culture if there is nothing to experience together?

mantas 5mo ago
Welcome to the life of fringe subcultures. Of course subcultures, even most fringe ones, still have some community. But even in generated content world, some people would end up with similar taste and that generated content being similar. They may even share that content and watch some of each other's content! And oh boy the joy of meeting that rare human who has similar taste! E.g. knowing some fringe band that created a demo tape 2 decades ago that you found in some strange torrent tracker. But yes, mass/pop culture as we know it would be dead. And IMO the world would be better off. I agree with other comments that may lead to people staying inside their comfort zone. But I think it's question of time when good portion of people would start sharing that content with other people. Expanding each others' imagination. And few that don't... Well, existing pop culture is not exactly good at expanding mind as well. And such decentralized content creation may be less prone to propaganda and other social control efforts.
darkwater 5mo ago
Well, that was a recent invention anyway - at least in Europe where I live. TVs did not really reach most of the households until late '70s and the shared pop culture based on movies (mostly from US), cartoons (mix from Japan and US), advertisements (usually national) was created quite fast. It's not an immutable fact of the human society.
- mantas 5mo ago
  On top of that, I wonder if it wouldn't be for the better. 100 years ago many regions had distinct cultures. 200 years ago pretty much each village had a wee different culture. With slightly different fairy tales or songs and so on. Nowadays the culture gets standardised at a massive pace. If generative AI could put a stop on it... That'd definitely be an improvement.
  - voidpointer 5mo ago
    Maybe you have a point there. An optimistic outlook would be that AI allows people to create content that can compete with the polished, mass-produced, standardized stuff without the prohibitive budget requirements. The pessimistic view is that it leads to more isolation, where everyone only "creates" for themselves.
    - mantas 5mo ago
      I don't think it would be worse isolation than consuming standardized mass-produced content. Even a simple prompt, thinking what you want and so on is already the beginning of a creativity. Turning on TV/Netflix/whatever is not. Unless the problem is people isolation in way, that people would not consume standardized content that also, to some extent, standardize their mind. But in that case it's an isolation problem even without AI when people check out from mass culture and entertain themselves. Wether entirely solo or in small fringe subcultures. Which is kinda isolation if you look from 19th/20th century point-of-view when name of the game was to normalise all the regional cultures into bigger bodies of people. But is such isolation the wrong or a good kind of isolation? I'd lean towards the later.

trollbridge 5mo ago

I want to watch things that expand my imagination, rather than being limited by it.

maplethorpe 5mo ago

This + NFT integration will be the real game changer. Like it's Breaking Bad, except Walter White is decked out like one of your Slonks. Or it's Indiana Jones stealing a Bored Ape instead of the idol. Possibilities are endless.

DonHopkins 5mo ago
Did you miss the memo that NFTs are a scam for gullible suckers? And bored apes ... really? That actually appeals to you? Please be sarcastic! Line Goes Up – The Problem With NFTs https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQ_xWvX1n9g