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Food. You probably eat grains and other food which are grown in warmer areas, which might become too hot or too dry to continue growing that food. Migrations

Food. You probably eat grains and other food which are grown in warmer areas, which might become too hot or too dry to continue growing that food. Migrations and property destructions will matter too. If New York gets a even bigger Sandy a few times every year, the rest of USA will too suffer economically.

ctdonath 14y ago
And areas too cold now will be able to grow food. Global temperatures have a long-term cycle of about 12 degrees C. We're at a peak, so indeed it seems temperatures have been going up for a while. Now it's time for them to come back down. http://ctdonath.blogspot.com/2012/02/global-climate-change-in-context.html http://ctdonath.blogspot.com/2012/02/global-climate-change-i... Climate changes. Cope.
- ovi256 14y ago
  >And areas too cold now will be able to grow food. Sure, but to the transition will take money (effort) and time. And already food supply if a finely tuned system with not much margin for error.
- scarmig 14y ago
  "Clever" use of misleading scale and baldfaced assertion, there. Many people believe the trick of dilating an axis to make perceived changes smaller is on some level dishonest. I'm sure your argument is that: well, on the scale of hundreds of thousands of years, you can see temperatures vary on that scale! Sure. But we are talking about anthropogenic climate change. Even the worst case scenario--which everyone agrees would be bad and people spend a whole lot of effort arguing it can't happen because of that--would barely show up on the graphs you linked. So they're of little value, and I recommend you take them down because of how they might be construed to mislead.
  - ctdonath 14y ago
    But we are talking about anthropogenic climate change. Indeed we are. I put those graphs up precisely to show that the anthropogenic changes are mere noise in the natural order of climate change, regardless of scale. I contend that the dismissal of such historical context is intended to mislead.
- silvestrov 14y ago
  It's not that simple, ask any farmer: the amount of rain and when it falls, is hugely important too. The type of soil too, the new areas might have a wrong type of soil for the grains. Even if the average temperature is the same, the amount of food you can produce can vary a lot.

ctdonath 14y ago

And areas too cold now will be able to grow food. Global temperatures have a long-term cycle of about 12 degrees C. We're at a peak, so indeed it seems temperatures have been going up for a while. Now it's time for them to come back down. http://ctdonath.blogspot.com/2012/02/global-climate-change-in-context.html http://ctdonath.blogspot.com/2012/02/global-climate-change-i... Climate changes. Cope.

ovi256 14y ago
>And areas too cold now will be able to grow food. Sure, but to the transition will take money (effort) and time. And already food supply if a finely tuned system with not much margin for error.
scarmig 14y ago
"Clever" use of misleading scale and baldfaced assertion, there. Many people believe the trick of dilating an axis to make perceived changes smaller is on some level dishonest. I'm sure your argument is that: well, on the scale of hundreds of thousands of years, you can see temperatures vary on that scale! Sure. But we are talking about anthropogenic climate change. Even the worst case scenario--which everyone agrees would be bad and people spend a whole lot of effort arguing it can't happen because of that--would barely show up on the graphs you linked. So they're of little value, and I recommend you take them down because of how they might be construed to mislead.
- ctdonath 14y ago
  But we are talking about anthropogenic climate change. Indeed we are. I put those graphs up precisely to show that the anthropogenic changes are mere noise in the natural order of climate change, regardless of scale. I contend that the dismissal of such historical context is intended to mislead.
silvestrov 14y ago
It's not that simple, ask any farmer: the amount of rain and when it falls, is hugely important too. The type of soil too, the new areas might have a wrong type of soil for the grains. Even if the average temperature is the same, the amount of food you can produce can vary a lot.