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As expected and as is usual I’ve read through another very salty justification for using Jellyfin that is based on anger or idealism. I rarely if ever see anyon

As expected and as is usual I’ve read through another very salty justification for using Jellyfin that is based on anger or idealism. I rarely if ever see anyone making the argument that Jellyfin is actually materially better usability-wise. it’s always, “Plex is going down the shitter, you’ll see!”. OK then, if Jellyfin becomes better, then i’ll switch. isn’t the point that I own the media, so i can switch to whatever i want, whenever i want? Which to me is, when Jellyfin is better for my use-case. So many people act like this is like placing a bet on your favourite sports team. Like If one piece of software eventually gets bad then it was never worth using at all. We’re all going to die, eventually, so by that logic neither Plex nor Jellyfin would be worth using.

antiframe 5mo ago
It's better for my use cases. For starters, I don't have to login every so often for no reason. I don't have my local software break because they updated their server. I also find it much slower. Picking a tool is a very personal decision, and it depends on one's values and one's use.
- mvanbaak 5mo ago
  I logged in 6 years ago. Since then its just working. Yes, plex. On my appletv
  - kennethrc 5mo ago
    Ditto for me on every one of the ~20 places I've logged in starting in ~2017
    - antiframe 5mo ago
      Well then I was a one off. It got me (along with how slow it was) to leave. Maybe it was a bug? Maybe I misconfigured it? Maybe it was OS? Who knows? Glad it works for you. This was using the local web server instance to manage permissions for users, so maybe every time my distro undated the web server software or something. Either way, for my use case it didn't work out of the box. JellyFun did and does. Every tool decision is personal. Your experience doesn't nullify mine.
  - swat535 5mo ago
    Don't you have any privacy concerns with Plex? They state that they may share/sell certain data to vendors for targeted advertising (even though they offer an "ads" free experience). They also log Email, username, IP address, device info, usage stats, etc.
malfist 5mo ago
What in the world are you even trying to say? That because we all die at some point there is no reason to not sell out to an exploitive corporation because they have better UIs?
- u_fucking_dork 5mo ago
  No, the opposite if anything. I’m curious how you came to that conclusion.
sowbug 5mo ago
God forbid anyone avoid a merchant because of anger, or choose a merchant because of idealism.
mvanbaak 5mo ago
Ppl want developers to work for free. Especially here on hn
jjulius 5mo ago
The simple fact of the matter is that, for many, enshittification outweighs usability. People are very happy to switch to something that may not be functionally all that better just as long as it doesn't come with a whole bunch of extra, in their opinion, bullshit. And that's fine. If you're not bothered by what others are, cool beans. Good for you.
tengbretson 5mo ago
I'll happily take 10 "oops I messed up your order"s over 1 "I put sawdust in the bread"
cassianoleal 5mo ago
I see an almost equal amount of both. I'm still using Plex. It still seems to be better for 90% of my use cases but I'd like to switch eventually. Unfortunately Jellyfin seems to be a lot of work upfront for which I don't currently have the time or motivation.
- snapplebobapple 5mo ago
  If you want to install install docker engine (super simple instructions on docker's website) then if you make a directory and put the compose file below in it (you can call it whatever but docker-compose.yaml is a convention choice) and create another directory in that directory named "jellyfin" the below compose file will work mostly out of the box. you just run docker compose up -d in the directory. If you named the compose file something else you just need to specify -f filenameofcompose in the run command. I included an nfs mount example you can delete if you aren't using nfs mount (the volumes: head and examplenfsmount at the bottom) or adjust it/copy it for your nas situation. If you have your media locally mounted on the computer you are doing this on you can change out the xamplenfsmount for /path to your files. you can also duplicate that line for any other paths to media on your system/nfs/etc. once it's up you just go to http://ipofthebox:8096/jellyfin in a web browser and follow the prompts. It's not too bad at all to get going. I'm out of time to check you might not need /jellyfin in the url. if the first line doesn't work try it without /jellyfin services: jellyfin-jellyfin: container_name: jellyfin image: jellyfin/jellyfin:latest environment: user: 1000.100 #change this if you want your user to not be 1000 and your group to not be 100 should be fine in most cases. TZ: America/Chicago #change me to your timezeone volumes: - examplenfsmount:/mnt/movies:ro - ./jellyfin:/config devices: - /dev/dri:/dev/dri - /dev/dri/renderD128:/dev/dri/renderD128 ports: - 8096:8096 volumes: examplenfsmount: driver: local driver_opts: type: "nfs" o: "addr=YOURNASIP,nolock,soft" device: ":/YOURNASMOUNT"
  - cassianoleal 5mo ago
    Thanks for the effort of posting this, but I'm not sure what this solves. Deploying Jellyfin is easy. DRI is easy. Configuring it, herding my library structure, making sure I have friendly file formats, getting the myriad client devices to work, subtitles... At one point a friend told me "I just went through the Trash guides once and job done". I spent a half hour looking at them, then another half hour giving that stuff ago and threw my hands up in the air and went back to Plex to watch some stuff after a wasted hour.
snapplebobapple 5mo ago
Its way better for my use cases. Super easy to get the newly unshitified linux client autoloading on bazzite.flirc remote is awesome, not having my data exfiltrated to the cloud to be sold to the hi-hest bidder while charging me for that denigration also super awesome.

antiframe 5mo ago

It's better for my use cases. For starters, I don't have to login every so often for no reason. I don't have my local software break because they updated their server. I also find it much slower. Picking a tool is a very personal decision, and it depends on one's values and one's use.

mvanbaak 5mo ago
I logged in 6 years ago. Since then its just working. Yes, plex. On my appletv
- kennethrc 5mo ago
  Ditto for me on every one of the ~20 places I've logged in starting in ~2017
  - antiframe 5mo ago
    Well then I was a one off. It got me (along with how slow it was) to leave. Maybe it was a bug? Maybe I misconfigured it? Maybe it was OS? Who knows? Glad it works for you. This was using the local web server instance to manage permissions for users, so maybe every time my distro undated the web server software or something. Either way, for my use case it didn't work out of the box. JellyFun did and does. Every tool decision is personal. Your experience doesn't nullify mine.
- swat535 5mo ago
  Don't you have any privacy concerns with Plex? They state that they may share/sell certain data to vendors for targeted advertising (even though they offer an "ads" free experience). They also log Email, username, IP address, device info, usage stats, etc.

malfist 5mo ago

What in the world are you even trying to say? That because we all die at some point there is no reason to not sell out to an exploitive corporation because they have better UIs?

u_fucking_dork 5mo ago
No, the opposite if anything. I’m curious how you came to that conclusion.

sowbug 5mo ago

God forbid anyone avoid a merchant because of anger, or choose a merchant because of idealism.

mvanbaak 5mo ago

Ppl want developers to work for free. Especially here on hn

jjulius 5mo ago

The simple fact of the matter is that, for many, enshittification outweighs usability. People are very happy to switch to something that may not be functionally all that better just as long as it doesn't come with a whole bunch of extra, in their opinion, bullshit. And that's fine. If you're not bothered by what others are, cool beans. Good for you.

tengbretson 5mo ago

I'll happily take 10 "oops I messed up your order"s over 1 "I put sawdust in the bread"

cassianoleal 5mo ago

I see an almost equal amount of both. I'm still using Plex. It still seems to be better for 90% of my use cases but I'd like to switch eventually. Unfortunately Jellyfin seems to be a lot of work upfront for which I don't currently have the time or motivation.

snapplebobapple 5mo ago
If you want to install install docker engine (super simple instructions on docker's website) then if you make a directory and put the compose file below in it (you can call it whatever but docker-compose.yaml is a convention choice) and create another directory in that directory named "jellyfin" the below compose file will work mostly out of the box. you just run docker compose up -d in the directory. If you named the compose file something else you just need to specify -f filenameofcompose in the run command. I included an nfs mount example you can delete if you aren't using nfs mount (the volumes: head and examplenfsmount at the bottom) or adjust it/copy it for your nas situation. If you have your media locally mounted on the computer you are doing this on you can change out the xamplenfsmount for /path to your files. you can also duplicate that line for any other paths to media on your system/nfs/etc. once it's up you just go to http://ipofthebox:8096/jellyfin in a web browser and follow the prompts. It's not too bad at all to get going. I'm out of time to check you might not need /jellyfin in the url. if the first line doesn't work try it without /jellyfin services: jellyfin-jellyfin: container_name: jellyfin image: jellyfin/jellyfin:latest environment: user: 1000.100 #change this if you want your user to not be 1000 and your group to not be 100 should be fine in most cases. TZ: America/Chicago #change me to your timezeone volumes: - examplenfsmount:/mnt/movies:ro - ./jellyfin:/config devices: - /dev/dri:/dev/dri - /dev/dri/renderD128:/dev/dri/renderD128 ports: - 8096:8096 volumes: examplenfsmount: driver: local driver_opts: type: "nfs" o: "addr=YOURNASIP,nolock,soft" device: ":/YOURNASMOUNT"
- cassianoleal 5mo ago
  Thanks for the effort of posting this, but I'm not sure what this solves. Deploying Jellyfin is easy. DRI is easy. Configuring it, herding my library structure, making sure I have friendly file formats, getting the myriad client devices to work, subtitles... At one point a friend told me "I just went through the Trash guides once and job done". I spent a half hour looking at them, then another half hour giving that stuff ago and threw my hands up in the air and went back to Plex to watch some stuff after a wasted hour.

snapplebobapple 5mo ago

Its way better for my use cases. Super easy to get the newly unshitified linux client autoloading on bazzite.flirc remote is awesome, not having my data exfiltrated to the cloud to be sold to the hi-hest bidder while charging me for that denigration also super awesome.