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They both insist on their own systems and both are wrong.

jauntywundrkind 6mo ago
It's astounding how much every single system out there fights and fights and fights against showing you your directories, as they are. I started but didn't finish a Rygel + local-search (nee Tracker) plugin to try to finally get that. I wish the upnp media services were better. I keep telling myself I'll build a nice client/controller... Some day.
- _carbyau_ 6mo ago
  What're the chances VLC will do what you want as both server and client?
- crtasm 6mo ago
  It's one tickbox away in Jellyfin: Libraries > Display > Display a folder view to show plain media folders
mook 6mo ago
Is there anything around that does _not_ force a management system? I really just want a thing that primarily just tracks if I've seen a particular file, secondarily maybe let me control playback from a different device. Actually figuring out what media those files map to is a distant third.
- pointlessone 6mo ago
  DLNA usually doesn’t force any system and more or less exposes fs. Some TVs natively have a client. Otherwise Kody or some other client app can be used to browse and play files.
pointlessone 6mo ago
As far as I can tell plex only wants separate folders for different kinds of media and file names that give at least some clue to what it is. Plex is much more lax.
- hparadiz 6mo ago
  The problem with Plex is that is has a very opinionated system that ignores how things are in real life. One example I can point to is Stargate SG-1. Episode 1 is a two parter and depending on who you ask it's either Episode 1 and 2 or Episode 1 which causes all subsequent episode numbers to be thrown off by 1 depending on how you count. This confusion is further complicated by the release order on DVD/Bluray, the order of airing, and the fact that all of these things can be different in different regions of the world. And that's just one show.
  - amazingamazing 6mo ago
    This is not really a big deal. If you want it organized arbitrarily put the files in other and it will be.
    - hparadiz 6mo ago
      It's a big deal because there's no rhyme or reason why it's one way or another way in different series so when you ask your TV through voice command to "Play Season 3 Episode 2 of [Show] through Plex] and then your TV plays the wrong episode it becomes a big deal.
      - amazingamazing 6mo ago
        Use your remote or organize your files accordingly such that the integration works
        hparadiz 6mo ago
        You are not listening. There is no way to make it work properly all the time.
        amazingamazing 6mo ago
        Use remote and put everything in other, it will use your file directory organization. People, man.
queenkjuul 6mo ago
Torrents go in, properly matched Plex entries come out, 99% of the time I do agree that both systems are wrong. At least Plex's is more compatible with the even-more-wrong conventions of the high seas

It's astounding how much every single system out there fights and fights and fights against showing you your directories, as they are. I started but didn't finish a Rygel + local-search (nee Tracker) plugin to try to finally get that. I wish the upnp media services were better. I keep telling myself I'll build a nice client/controller... Some day.

_carbyau_ 6mo ago
What're the chances VLC will do what you want as both server and client?
crtasm 6mo ago
It's one tickbox away in Jellyfin: Libraries > Display > Display a folder view to show plain media folders

mook 6mo ago

Is there anything around that does _not_ force a management system? I really just want a thing that primarily just tracks if I've seen a particular file, secondarily maybe let me control playback from a different device. Actually figuring out what media those files map to is a distant third.

pointlessone 6mo ago
DLNA usually doesn’t force any system and more or less exposes fs. Some TVs natively have a client. Otherwise Kody or some other client app can be used to browse and play files.

pointlessone 6mo ago

As far as I can tell plex only wants separate folders for different kinds of media and file names that give at least some clue to what it is. Plex is much more lax.

hparadiz 6mo ago
The problem with Plex is that is has a very opinionated system that ignores how things are in real life. One example I can point to is Stargate SG-1. Episode 1 is a two parter and depending on who you ask it's either Episode 1 and 2 or Episode 1 which causes all subsequent episode numbers to be thrown off by 1 depending on how you count. This confusion is further complicated by the release order on DVD/Bluray, the order of airing, and the fact that all of these things can be different in different regions of the world. And that's just one show.
- amazingamazing 6mo ago
  This is not really a big deal. If you want it organized arbitrarily put the files in other and it will be.
  - hparadiz 6mo ago
    It's a big deal because there's no rhyme or reason why it's one way or another way in different series so when you ask your TV through voice command to "Play Season 3 Episode 2 of [Show] through Plex] and then your TV plays the wrong episode it becomes a big deal.
    - amazingamazing 6mo ago
      Use your remote or organize your files accordingly such that the integration works
      - hparadiz 6mo ago
        You are not listening. There is no way to make it work properly all the time.
        amazingamazing 6mo ago
        Use remote and put everything in other, it will use your file directory organization. People, man.

queenkjuul 6mo ago

Torrents go in, properly matched Plex entries come out, 99% of the time I do agree that both systems are wrong. At least Plex's is more compatible with the even-more-wrong conventions of the high seas