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Posts like this are so funny to me. I'm staring at a mountain of old hardware right now that cost about $20k ten years ago. I have to pay someone now to come ha
by hparadiz 6mo ago
Posts like this are so funny to me. I'm staring at a mountain of old hardware right now that cost about $20k ten years ago. I have to pay someone now to come haul it away. What makes you think the current new hardware won't end up with the same fate.
> Just write your own fkin code people
Bro is nostalgic for googling random stack overflow threads for 10 days to figure out a bug the agent fixes in an hour.
- cindyllm 6mo ago[dead]
- dakolli 6mo agoI'm just saying that agent that can fix your bugs actually cost $100-150 an hour to run and you're getting it essentially for $200.00 a month. The cost of cloud compute actually hasn't gone down for old hardware all that much, it still costs $500.00 a year rent 4 core i7700k that's 10 years old. Don't expect much more valuable hardware, like modern GPUs to deflate in price all that quickly. There's 3 fabs in the world that make ddr7 and they aren't going to be selling their stock to consumers going forward, it will be purchased by datacenters almost entirely and stay in them until EOL. Your brain is going to atrophy (this is proven), they'll raise the price to something thats closer to break even and you'll be forced to pay it because you no longer have those muscles.
- hparadiz 6mo agoThe architectural problems I deal with day in day out leave no room for atrophy. This is just cope.
- platevoltage 6mo agoYou're going to see major cope once that bargain $200/month plan goes away, and every person or company that has embedded these services into their workflows gets to see their actual costs.
- hparadiz 6mo agoHave you actually tried this stuff or are you just saying stuff you hear on the internet?
- platevoltage 6mo agoYes. I have tried this stuff. I really don't see how my use, or non-use of AI APIs changes this reality. Github Copilot announced it's going to per-token pricing in less than a month. I heard that on the internet by the way.
- hparadiz 6mo agoI'm watching people host models on things like LangSmith and OpenRouter for a fraction of the cost you are talking about. We have other people reporting their M4 Macs providing them with performance close to what they get with ChatGPT and Claude all locally with just a 24 GB M4 Mac. We already spend money on laptops. I can put in a ticket for an M4 Macbook Pro from IT right now.
- platevoltage 6mo agoFantastic. I run local models too. This was specifically about APIs
- hparadiz 6mo agoWhy do you think costs will go up when the competition is increasing while hardware prices per compute cycle go down? That's the part I don't get.
- platevoltage 6mo agoGoing from a fixed monthly fee to a per token billing structure is not a cost reduction, and we are watching that happen in real time.
- HWR_14 6mo agoDo you have any old laptop ram?
- hparadiz 6mo agoIt's old rack mounts. Only one of them has some ECC DDR4 worth something.