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Why strength training, instead of, say, ultimate frisbee or pickleball?

m463 5mo ago
made me wonder too, found: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4477923/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4477923/ > Key Points > - Improvements in joint position sense can be attained via standard strength-training exercises. > - Performing resistance exercises at consistent intensity rather than varying intensity resulted in better proprioception performance.
lc9er 5mo ago
I'm a big fan of strength training, but think it too often gets suggested as the solution to every problem, when really, we need some mix of strength training, cardio (anything from walking, to martial arts or team sports, whatever you'll actually do), mobility, and balance training. Your cardio/activity, depending on your choice could, account for a lot of this.
- Hoodedcrow 5mo ago
  I chose aerial gymnastics because that seems to be a combination of ALL you mentioned.
- m463 5mo ago
  the book goes into that. Decent book about getting old, and not having to.
- nottorp 5mo ago
  The greatest leap is from not doing anything to doing something. So just any activity will do, as long as you like it enough to do it regularly. The rest is refinement.
djmips 5mo ago
I am convinced that ultimate frisbee and pickleball also work. Another one is running or walking in nature, for example a beach - basically moving through an environment where the ground isn't flat.
- jfengel 5mo ago
  Frisbee and pickleball both have the nice property of being a mix of aerobic and anaerobic. They both reward bursts of power in addition to endurance. Ordinary running doesn't do that, though there is a practice called "fartlek" (literally, speed-play) where you do random bursts of speed. It used to be considered excellent cross training, though I haven't heard the term in a while. (Perhaps because the name is unintentionally hilarious.)
ordersofmag 5mo ago
Strength training can be done carefully with correct motions. Team sports with unpredictable dynamic movement not so much. Not to say you shouldn't engage in these, at any age, and that they have positive health benefits. They just aren't as safe as strength training for folks at the age where this is all relevant.
browningstreet 5mo ago
Resistance training. A thing even professional frisbee or pickleball player usually still supplement with, as well… Systemic and muscular vitality is optimized when you get cardio, resistance, and bounding/dynamic movement. Heart, slow twitch, and fast twitch.
kakacik 5mo ago
One can be done in old age, with some care (or bodyweight variant), ultimate frisbee... I can't imagine, unless you mean just frisbee. More like recipe for injured joint.
- AnimalMuppet 5mo ago
  I play regularly. I'm 64. I've had hamstring pulls, nothing else. One still nags me. But I'm the oldest one there, and I always cover the slowest person on the other team. I don't do collisions or jousts. I often just kind of hover behind the play on offense because I need to catch my breath. Now, can I still do that at 80? Probably not. At 90? Almost certainly no. At some point, I'm going to have to hang it up. But today is not that day...
pnw 5mo ago
Pickleball has a disproportionately high injury rate for people over 40. You'd be far better off taking up the gym or yoga.
euroderf 5mo ago
I always at least skim every fitness article in the ny times, and there seems to be a consensus that at least for old farts (like me), strength training at some level brings a variety of health benefits.
gilbetron 5mo ago
Sports are much more likely to result in injury, and as you get old, staying in the game (of life) is more important. It can take a long time to recover, if ever, from an injury as you age. I loved playing soccer, and did so until I was almost 50, but many of my issues, physically speaking, are from soccer. I loved doing it, and it is far more fun than strength training, but too many injuries result. Strength training and controlled cardio is much better for continuous health.

m463 5mo ago

made me wonder too, found: https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4477923/ https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4477923/ > Key Points > - Improvements in joint position sense can be attained via standard strength-training exercises. > - Performing resistance exercises at consistent intensity rather than varying intensity resulted in better proprioception performance.

lc9er 5mo ago

I'm a big fan of strength training, but think it too often gets suggested as the solution to every problem, when really, we need some mix of strength training, cardio (anything from walking, to martial arts or team sports, whatever you'll actually do), mobility, and balance training. Your cardio/activity, depending on your choice could, account for a lot of this.

Hoodedcrow 5mo ago
I chose aerial gymnastics because that seems to be a combination of ALL you mentioned.
m463 5mo ago
the book goes into that. Decent book about getting old, and not having to.
nottorp 5mo ago
The greatest leap is from not doing anything to doing something. So just any activity will do, as long as you like it enough to do it regularly. The rest is refinement.

djmips 5mo ago

I am convinced that ultimate frisbee and pickleball also work. Another one is running or walking in nature, for example a beach - basically moving through an environment where the ground isn't flat.

jfengel 5mo ago
Frisbee and pickleball both have the nice property of being a mix of aerobic and anaerobic. They both reward bursts of power in addition to endurance. Ordinary running doesn't do that, though there is a practice called "fartlek" (literally, speed-play) where you do random bursts of speed. It used to be considered excellent cross training, though I haven't heard the term in a while. (Perhaps because the name is unintentionally hilarious.)

ordersofmag 5mo ago

Strength training can be done carefully with correct motions. Team sports with unpredictable dynamic movement not so much. Not to say you shouldn't engage in these, at any age, and that they have positive health benefits. They just aren't as safe as strength training for folks at the age where this is all relevant.

browningstreet 5mo ago

Resistance training. A thing even professional frisbee or pickleball player usually still supplement with, as well… Systemic and muscular vitality is optimized when you get cardio, resistance, and bounding/dynamic movement. Heart, slow twitch, and fast twitch.

kakacik 5mo ago

One can be done in old age, with some care (or bodyweight variant), ultimate frisbee... I can't imagine, unless you mean just frisbee. More like recipe for injured joint.

AnimalMuppet 5mo ago
I play regularly. I'm 64. I've had hamstring pulls, nothing else. One still nags me. But I'm the oldest one there, and I always cover the slowest person on the other team. I don't do collisions or jousts. I often just kind of hover behind the play on offense because I need to catch my breath. Now, can I still do that at 80? Probably not. At 90? Almost certainly no. At some point, I'm going to have to hang it up. But today is not that day...

pnw 5mo ago

Pickleball has a disproportionately high injury rate for people over 40. You'd be far better off taking up the gym or yoga.

euroderf 5mo ago

I always at least skim every fitness article in the ny times, and there seems to be a consensus that at least for old farts (like me), strength training at some level brings a variety of health benefits.

gilbetron 5mo ago

Sports are much more likely to result in injury, and as you get old, staying in the game (of life) is more important. It can take a long time to recover, if ever, from an injury as you age. I loved playing soccer, and did so until I was almost 50, but many of my issues, physically speaking, are from soccer. I loved doing it, and it is far more fun than strength training, but too many injuries result. Strength training and controlled cardio is much better for continuous health.