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> the things are happening though. That's what the headlines said the last 49 times. Why should the average person care now? What are they supposed to do? Al

> the things are happening though. That's what the headlines said the last 49 times. Why should the average person care now? What are they supposed to do? Al Gore got on a scissor lift and showed the hockey stick graph. Millions of people saw it. Then the data was bad. Then the average person didn't see anything happen that they could point to and be like "That's what Al Gore warned us about". What you're asking for already happened, over and over. It's useless now.

Izkata 6mo ago
It's like the climate people never heard the fable of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". It's exactly that.
- idiotsecant 6mo ago
  Who are 'The climate people' you seem to think are doing this? Do you think there is a club where the climate people president takes a vote from the climate people council on how many news stories hacknews user Izkata should read? If you lived under a big precarious rock and people always talked about the big rock falling on you would you ignore the big rock because the big rock people keep crying wolf? This is honestly the most baffling worldview.
  - senordevnyc 6mo ago
    If you lived under a big precarious rock and people always talked about the big rock falling on you would you ignore the big rock because the big rock people keep crying wolf? Yeah, that’s exactly what we do, all the time. From nuclear weapons to pandemics to climate change, people become accustomed to the background risks they live under, and go about their lives. Especially when there’s almost nothing they can do about it anyway. And well-meaning people constantly predicting calamities that don’t materialize only hasten that process.
  - joquarky 6mo ago
    Yes, this is what most people do. If you don't know people like this, then try visiting a large church.
- postflopclarity 6mo ago
  except that every time the boy cried wolf, there actually was a wolf and it ate some people, but then the people it didn't eat were like "idk what you're talking about, I'm doing just fine" and then plugged their ears.
  - cagey 6mo ago
    Well that's not how I heard the fable, and not how the authoritative reference recalls it either[0]. If "every time the boy cried wolf, there actually was a wolf and it ate some people", then it would hardly be a fable about giving a false alarm, would it? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
    - postflopclarity 6mo ago
      ... yes. that's my point. the fable is not a good analogy in this context.
  - joquarky 6mo ago
    Anyone who doesn't get this must have lived under a rock during COVID-19.
pjmlp 6mo ago
Use paper straws, because that is how we save the world. /s

Izkata 6mo ago

It's like the climate people never heard the fable of "The Boy Who Cried Wolf". It's exactly that.

idiotsecant 6mo ago
Who are 'The climate people' you seem to think are doing this? Do you think there is a club where the climate people president takes a vote from the climate people council on how many news stories hacknews user Izkata should read? If you lived under a big precarious rock and people always talked about the big rock falling on you would you ignore the big rock because the big rock people keep crying wolf? This is honestly the most baffling worldview.
- senordevnyc 6mo ago
  If you lived under a big precarious rock and people always talked about the big rock falling on you would you ignore the big rock because the big rock people keep crying wolf? Yeah, that’s exactly what we do, all the time. From nuclear weapons to pandemics to climate change, people become accustomed to the background risks they live under, and go about their lives. Especially when there’s almost nothing they can do about it anyway. And well-meaning people constantly predicting calamities that don’t materialize only hasten that process.
- joquarky 6mo ago
  Yes, this is what most people do. If you don't know people like this, then try visiting a large church.
postflopclarity 6mo ago
except that every time the boy cried wolf, there actually was a wolf and it ate some people, but then the people it didn't eat were like "idk what you're talking about, I'm doing just fine" and then plugged their ears.
- cagey 6mo ago
  Well that's not how I heard the fable, and not how the authoritative reference recalls it either[0]. If "every time the boy cried wolf, there actually was a wolf and it ate some people", then it would hardly be a fable about giving a false alarm, would it? [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf
  - postflopclarity 6mo ago
    ... yes. that's my point. the fable is not a good analogy in this context.
- joquarky 6mo ago
  Anyone who doesn't get this must have lived under a rock during COVID-19.

pjmlp 6mo ago

Use paper straws, because that is how we save the world. /s