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That's a false binary. European nations manage without either of them for example.
by EMIRELADERO 5mo ago
That's a false binary. European nations manage without either of them for example.
- cjbgkagh 5mo agoI think it is that the US is merely ahead of Europe and Europe will catch up to the US in this regard. Just give it 20 to 30 years.
- EMIRELADERO 5mo agoWhy do you believe mantaining an acceptable level of peacefulness requires torture?
- cjbgkagh 5mo agoI don’t accept your premise that the Japanese system is torture.
- EMIRELADERO 5mo agoExtreme control of movement and sleep including deprivation of it for arbitrary amounts, constant lighting, no outside time, nothing to do for months at a time, lack of nutritious food, all those things in combination constitue torture under most modern definitions.