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So they should use bit torrent. IMO personal security would only be improved if we diversified away from "the open web". "Flood the field" with protocols and

by y3ahd0g 5mo ago

So they should use bit torrent. IMO personal security would only be improved if we diversified away from "the open web". "Flood the field" with protocols and pre-shared key networks where we have to generate keys together in meat space, make it too expensive to operate the panopticon. Everyone putting their eggs in the open web basket, gathering in that public commons means all it takes is one bomb on us all, so to speak.

LocalH 5mo ago
BitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I feel that uploading a small percentage of a file as a condition of downloading the whole thing may very well fall under fair use - most BT traffic is noncommercial, the portion of the covered work uploaded by "leeches" is very small and probably would be covered by the "30-second" rule often quoted in fair use discussions. The only really arguable point is the "effect on the work's value", but then again an average leech is not uploading enough of the work to have that much of a material effect on the work's value.
- fsflover 5mo ago
  Torrents in I2P allow fully anonymous data exchange.
- y3ahd0g 5mo ago
  Ok private 1:1 wireguard and syncthing or rsync all the way down then Softlink data to the appropriate mount The options are endless and tech nerds can 1:1 help friends and family Locking the knowledge into corporate silos is a huge security risk. The masses should be just as competent and informed so they don't panic Minority say over the economy and government is just fascism. These people are not deities. They're normal meat and bone We have processes to replace politicians and workers; we need processes to replace the rich. Free speech is a circular right and there is no freedom from consequences of speech. They can face consequences too
- mafuy 5mo ago
  In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few years ago luckily mostly blocked the path. It was badly needed, because the situation was horribly abused by law firms.
  - simondotau 5mo ago
    > even a single byte of content is illegal 10010110 Watch out die Deutschen, that’s the first byte of Super Mario Bros.
    - abc123abc123 5mo ago
      Woop, woop, it's the sound of da police! I heard a rumour that this byte also exists in the Legend of Zelda! No go get em Mr Policeman!
    - deleted 5mo ago
      [deleted]
    - mafuy 5mo ago
      Yeah, there is no threshold to how much copyrighted material has to be uploaded. Any upload suffices to make it illegal. If I recall correctly, the intent/justification was to ensure that uploading a single song, or half a single song, is captured by the law, but of course it was written in a stupid way.
  - defrost 5mo ago
    In Australia it was determined that an ISP bears no responsibly to respond to allegations of copyright infringement by ISP users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadshow_Films_Pty_Ltd_v_iiNet_Ltd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadshow_Films_Pty_Ltd_v_iiNet... Of course Telco's can choose to be involved, perhaps accept payment to lookup and snitch, etc. but for the most part a number of ISPs in Au just wash their hands of devoting resources to play connect the dots for others.
- dvogel 5mo ago
  > US-centric here: I feel that uploading a small percentage of a file as a condition of downloading the whole thing may very well fall under fair use This is not consistent with current Fair Use application. The TL;DR is that the use must be for a new expression that is protected by either the 1st amendment or copyright itself. I don't know of a single case where it has applied to mere distribution. I would be astounded if there is such a case because that isn't within the expressed purpose of the doctrine.
- well_ackshually 5mo ago
  IP Firms have automated bots to send mails to abuse@provider the moment they see you even getting a file list. My Hetzner server got taken down after an abuse complaint from McGraw Hill saying that I downloaded some dogshit management book by merely connecting to DHT. Hetzner is in Germany, the server is in Finland, the accuser is in the US. The only way to win is to either move away, or lobby for your countries to stop respecting US copyright laws.

by y3ahd0g 5mo ago

LocalH 5mo ago

BitTorrent allows untrusted users (read: industry plants) to connect and slurp down direct IP addresses to swarm participants. It's an unanswered legal question whether low-level uploading (such as the percentages one would get as a "leech", connecting to the torrent and then disconnecting immediately after completion) might fall under "fair use" or "fair dealing" statutes in various jurisdictions. US-centric here: I feel that uploading a small percentage of a file as a condition of downloading the whole thing may very well fall under fair use - most BT traffic is noncommercial, the portion of the covered work uploaded by "leeches" is very small and probably would be covered by the "30-second" rule often quoted in fair use discussions. The only really arguable point is the "effect on the work's value", but then again an average leech is not uploading enough of the work to have that much of a material effect on the work's value.

fsflover 5mo ago
Torrents in I2P allow fully anonymous data exchange.
y3ahd0g 5mo ago
Ok private 1:1 wireguard and syncthing or rsync all the way down then Softlink data to the appropriate mount The options are endless and tech nerds can 1:1 help friends and family Locking the knowledge into corporate silos is a huge security risk. The masses should be just as competent and informed so they don't panic Minority say over the economy and government is just fascism. These people are not deities. They're normal meat and bone We have processes to replace politicians and workers; we need processes to replace the rich. Free speech is a circular right and there is no freedom from consequences of speech. They can face consequences too
mafuy 5mo ago
In Germany at least, uploading even a single byte of content is illegal. We don't really have Fair Use here; there are only few, very narrow exceptions. It is also not even required to show that that single byte was uploaded, your IP getting logged as part of the swarm suffices. The burden of proof is on you now. It was much, much worse than in the US. While all this is technically still true today, a new law a few years ago luckily mostly blocked the path. It was badly needed, because the situation was horribly abused by law firms.
- simondotau 5mo ago
  > even a single byte of content is illegal 10010110 Watch out die Deutschen, that’s the first byte of Super Mario Bros.
  - abc123abc123 5mo ago
    Woop, woop, it's the sound of da police! I heard a rumour that this byte also exists in the Legend of Zelda! No go get em Mr Policeman!
  - deleted 5mo ago
    [deleted]
  - mafuy 5mo ago
    Yeah, there is no threshold to how much copyrighted material has to be uploaded. Any upload suffices to make it illegal. If I recall correctly, the intent/justification was to ensure that uploading a single song, or half a single song, is captured by the law, but of course it was written in a stupid way.
- defrost 5mo ago
  In Australia it was determined that an ISP bears no responsibly to respond to allegations of copyright infringement by ISP users. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadshow_Films_Pty_Ltd_v_iiNet_Ltd https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Roadshow_Films_Pty_Ltd_v_iiNet... Of course Telco's can choose to be involved, perhaps accept payment to lookup and snitch, etc. but for the most part a number of ISPs in Au just wash their hands of devoting resources to play connect the dots for others.
dvogel 5mo ago
> US-centric here: I feel that uploading a small percentage of a file as a condition of downloading the whole thing may very well fall under fair use This is not consistent with current Fair Use application. The TL;DR is that the use must be for a new expression that is protected by either the 1st amendment or copyright itself. I don't know of a single case where it has applied to mere distribution. I would be astounded if there is such a case because that isn't within the expressed purpose of the doctrine.
well_ackshually 5mo ago
IP Firms have automated bots to send mails to abuse@provider the moment they see you even getting a file list. My Hetzner server got taken down after an abuse complaint from McGraw Hill saying that I downloaded some dogshit management book by merely connecting to DHT. Hetzner is in Germany, the server is in Finland, the accuser is in the US. The only way to win is to either move away, or lobby for your countries to stop respecting US copyright laws.