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Nobody is releasing NEW models
by lionkor 6mo ago
Nobody is releasing NEW models
- taneq 6mo agoThe standard networking connection has been called “Ethernet” for more than thirty years, so networking has stagnated, right?
- SlinkyOnStairs 6mo agoIf higher bandwidth networking consisted primarily running more and more ethernet lines in parallel, you would most certainly agree that "networking has stagnated". "Reasoning" and now "Agentic" AI systems are not some fundamental improvement on LLMs, they're just running roughly the same prior-gen LLMS, multiple times. Hence the conclusion that LLM improvement has slowed down, if not stagnated entirely, and that we should not expect the improvements of switching to these "reasoning" systems to keep happening.
- p1esk 6mo agoFrom TFA: “ChatGPT came up with an idea which is original and clever. It is the sort of idea I would be very proud to come up with after a week or two of pondering, and it took ChatGPT less than an hour to find and prove”
- SlinkyOnStairs 6mo agoYou misunderstand. I'm not saying that Reasoning/Agentic systems aren't better. I'm saying they're not an advancement in the tech in the way GPT 1 through 3 were. They're a different kind of improvement. And as such the rate improvement cannot just be extrapolated into the future.
- p1esk 6mo agoGPT1 through GPT3 advancement were exactly like using more Ethernet cables in parallel. All interesting conceptual breakthroughs came after GPT3: RL and reasoning being the main ones.
- kstenerud 6mo agoWhat constitutes a NEW model for the purposes of calculating progress?
- aspenmartin 6mo ago…not only is this not true but it also doesn’t matter. Why would this indicate performance saturating?
- GardenLetter27 6mo agoWhat? DeepSeekV3 just came out and is incredible for the price. Mythos is also half-released.
- nozzlegear 6mo agoUntil you or I can actually use Mythos in Claude without an nda or other strings attached, Mythos is not released and is just an effective marketing tool for Anthropic.
- pixl97 6mo agoAt least to me this is a pretty sour grapes take. There are all kinds of released products that are expensive or need an NDA. You're just too poor to afford it. But make no mistakes there are governments using this in mass and likely against you.
- nxobject 6mo agoI think that’s worthy of at least sour grapes, too.