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So 1/1 is correct. Are you implying that all of the rest of them have no issues? I bet Zynga employees are pretty thrilled with their stock packages that were

So 1/1 is correct. Are you implying that all of the rest of them have no issues? I bet Zynga employees are pretty thrilled with their stock packages that were taken away right now, just as Facebook employees are presumably thrilled that the "$60-80/share" stock package their recruiter had promised them is now in the sub 20/share range. But hey, thats just 3 examples, and there are hundreds of companies right? Okay, how about last startup I worked for? Director of Operations hooks up with a subordinate, tries to promote them, someone else points out this is messed up, Director of Operations vows revenge, starts witch hunt, spends over 100k on consulting and salary for the employee they hooked up with, who should have been fired. In the end, when everyone realized what the person, he had already moved on to swanky new job. Karma is not a thing.

jcdavis 14y ago
What? Not having your company's stock perform as well as you wish (or what the recruiter told you, which everyone takes with a grain of salt anyways) is nowhere near examples see in that court filing. Not remotely close. Putting what looks to be serious abuse in the workplace alongside stock underperformance as "issues" is absurdly disingenuous. I know plenty of folks who work at a wide variety of companies in the Bay Area and have heard of nothing remotely as crazy as what is being reported at Color, so yes, I do believe this sort of thing is relatively isolated.
- ryguytilidie 14y ago
  I mean, if "this type of thing"=someone bringing a gun to work and your children getting threatened, I obviously agree. My point was more that there is a pretty discernable pattern of people acting like terrible human beings when they run a startup and see dollar signs in the future. ps. I think the whole "which you can take with a grain of salt" statement says it all. These companies employ these people and ask them to sell the company by saying thing x, y or z. If those things they made up to get you to leave a job are complete bullshit, its not just like "oh well, silly me trusting a recruiter" it should be "wow those guys at Facebook are kind of scumbags for misleading me and promising me x while giving me y while our CEO is now one of the richest people on earth." Cool.
dannyr 14y ago
I did not imply that the rest don't have any issues. But for one or a few incidents do not make Silicon Valley. I've been in Silicon Valley for 4 years. I've met and known people who I would not want to be friends with let alone be associated with. But overwhelmingly, Silicon Valley is full of good people who tried to do the right thing which is why it still continues to thrive.

jcdavis 14y ago

What? Not having your company's stock perform as well as you wish (or what the recruiter told you, which everyone takes with a grain of salt anyways) is nowhere near examples see in that court filing. Not remotely close. Putting what looks to be serious abuse in the workplace alongside stock underperformance as "issues" is absurdly disingenuous. I know plenty of folks who work at a wide variety of companies in the Bay Area and have heard of nothing remotely as crazy as what is being reported at Color, so yes, I do believe this sort of thing is relatively isolated.

ryguytilidie 14y ago
I mean, if "this type of thing"=someone bringing a gun to work and your children getting threatened, I obviously agree. My point was more that there is a pretty discernable pattern of people acting like terrible human beings when they run a startup and see dollar signs in the future. ps. I think the whole "which you can take with a grain of salt" statement says it all. These companies employ these people and ask them to sell the company by saying thing x, y or z. If those things they made up to get you to leave a job are complete bullshit, its not just like "oh well, silly me trusting a recruiter" it should be "wow those guys at Facebook are kind of scumbags for misleading me and promising me x while giving me y while our CEO is now one of the richest people on earth." Cool.

dannyr 14y ago

I did not imply that the rest don't have any issues. But for one or a few incidents do not make Silicon Valley. I've been in Silicon Valley for 4 years. I've met and known people who I would not want to be friends with let alone be associated with. But overwhelmingly, Silicon Valley is full of good people who tried to do the right thing which is why it still continues to thrive.