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And soon desktop OSes will follow, if you don’t have TPM you won’t be able to browse half of the internet.
by tamimio 6mo ago
And soon desktop OSes will follow, if you don’t have TPM you won’t be able to browse half of the internet.
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- Andrex 6mo agoA parallel, fully public and accessible internet being widespread and available for anyone with a slight tinkering kick... Could actually be really awesome. Let the commerce-driven, corporatized hellhole that the modern web has become eat itself.
- spencerflem 6mo agoI love the vision, but I do wonder how the parallel internet will deal with DDoS levels of bot traffic. I hear ‘web of trust’ pretty often and I like the idea but that’s not anonymous or accessible either
- SV_BubbleTime 6mo agoWell, how does Tor or other services do it now?
- spencerflem 6mo agoThey get blocked by Recaptcha, I think. I’m not talking about the network itself but the servers on the other end. I guess my point is that while Google is definitely malicious, I don’t think every site using recaptcha is and if we expect them not to use that tool there should probably be an alternative.
- 986aignan 6mo ago> They get blocked by Recaptcha, I think. I think SV was asking what onion services, which can't really use recaptcha, do to prevent the DDoS storm. And I would imagine the answer is obscurity, since the dark web isn't nearly as well-mapped as the public web. That and some Anubis or other PoW would probably go far.
- SV_BubbleTime 6mo agoProof of work I get, but isn’t that like step2? If I’m hosting at some IP, I still need Anubis or something to serve up the challenge, so doesn’t that become the attack point?
- eddythompson80 6mo agoTor does it by being so painfully slow an unreliable that the only way you would use it is if there is a cocaine-style reward at the end of it.
- staringforward 6mo ago> Tor does it by being so painfully slow an unreliable I do 95% of my web browsing via Tor Browser and it is very tolerable, most circuits are fast enough for 1080p video (Youtube, Twitch livestreams, etc) without any buffering. Here is a speedtest I ran just moments ago, I would hardly consider this "painfully slow": https://www.speedtest.net/result/19172283165.png https://www.speedtest.net/result/19172283165.png Of course this is a single tor circuit with an exit node, so speeds are slower when going directly to .onion sites, but the only real slowness comes from the latency and not throughput.
- nervysnail 5mo agoDo you add uBlock Origin to Tor? I know that it is not recommended.
- chadgpt2 6mo ago[dead]
- donmcronald 6mo ago> I love the vision, but I do wonder how the parallel internet will deal with DDoS levels of bot traffic. Something that makes it expensive to initiate a connection and cheap (relatively) to accept or reject would probably help. I think that’s a hard problem though.
- Andrex 6mo agoHow do personal blogs deal with the HN hug of death? In this increasingly-utopian vision, I imagine that being more widespread than (paid) DDOS attempts. There won't be any money to be made (banks, Paypal, etc. won't trust the "parallel web") and with the proliferation of synthetic training data I'm not sure how useful a target a bunch of blogs and smallweb sites would be.
- fsflover 6mo agoTPMs can also be based on free software and our own keys. It works well with Heads and Librem Key.
- cyklosarin 6mo agoTPM with things like Heads are borderline zero security and theater compared to actually decent implementations on Android/iOS platforms, I doubt the big companies would rely on that. TPM in general on non Mac/Chromebook PCs is mediocre even from big OEMs.
- fsflover 6mo agoDo you have any evidence if this? Qubes team disagrees with you.
- anonymars 6mo agoWhat a coincidence that Windows 11 makes it a requirement!
- roywiggins 6mo agoNot soon, now. The new reCAPTCHA on desktop shows you a QR code for you to scan with your Google-approved phone to prove you have one.