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Phel v0.36.0 – Lisp on PHP, now with numeric tower and first-class Vars

65 points by Chemaclass 5mo ago

Chemaclass 5mo ago
Phel compiles a Clojure-flavoured Lisp to PHP. v0.36.0 ships exact rationals (1/2 literals), arbitrary-precision BigInteger with overflow auto-promotion, BigDecimal, first-class Vars (#'sym, alter-var-root, with-redefs, watches), and new value types (UUID, Queue, MapEntry). Plus REPL and test boot are notably faster.
midnight_eclair 5mo ago
"inspired by clojure" - is there a better signal for good taste and quality?
- bitwize 5mo ago
  "inspired by Scheme" "inspired by CL"
- manytimesaway 5mo ago
  Inspired by PHP :^) Just kidding, even though I both love Clojure & PHP.
- bmacho 5mo ago
  "inspired clojure" ?
isaisabella 5mo ago
Great work on this release! Glad to see the dot-separated namespace syntax being standardized in the core.
pkphilip 5mo ago
It would be great if the Phel repl could connect to a running PHP process
- Chemaclass 5mo ago
  Phel has deep PHP interop built into the language: call any PHP function, instantiate classes, access globals via the php/ namespace from anywhere in your code. We also ship a Phel nREPL: a bencode-over-TCP server (phel nrepl) compatible with editor tooling like Calva, CIDER, and Conjure. Connect your editor and evaluate Phel code against a running process directly.
  - pkphilip 5mo ago
    That is cool! thank you.
  - ahmed1hsn 5mo ago
    as for interop with PHP, does it support Attributes: https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.attributes.overview.php https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.attributes.overview.p... ?
masijo 5mo ago
I've been following this project for a while, congratulations on the release! Even though I don't have much use for PHP at the moment, I wish it finds a niche in the market and becomes widely used. Good luck!
nz 5mo ago
Could not help but notice that this project has no explicit policy on whether AI contributions are allowed or not (i.e. nothing analogous to https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/ https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/).
- __alexs 5mo ago
  Culture wars are not worth anyones time participating in. Stop it.
TazeTSchnitzel 5mo ago
This is fun to see. I wonder how they handle the fact that PHP puts every type of thing in its own namespace (names of classes, functions, constants, methods, variables, member variables, static variables and class constants don't conflict with eachother) and how not all namespaces have case-sensitivity. That's very un-lisp, maybe it just uses its own lisp-specific namespace?
- deleted 5mo ago
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segmondy 5mo ago
Love this!

65 points by Chemaclass 5mo ago

Phel compiles a Clojure-flavoured Lisp to PHP. v0.36.0 ships exact rationals (1/2 literals), arbitrary-precision BigInteger with overflow auto-promotion, BigDecimal, first-class Vars (#'sym, alter-var-root, with-redefs, watches), and new value types (UUID, Queue, MapEntry). Plus REPL and test boot are notably faster.

midnight_eclair 5mo ago

"inspired by clojure" - is there a better signal for good taste and quality?

bitwize 5mo ago
"inspired by Scheme" "inspired by CL"
manytimesaway 5mo ago
Inspired by PHP :^) Just kidding, even though I both love Clojure & PHP.
bmacho 5mo ago
"inspired clojure" ?

isaisabella 5mo ago

Great work on this release! Glad to see the dot-separated namespace syntax being standardized in the core.

pkphilip 5mo ago

It would be great if the Phel repl could connect to a running PHP process

Chemaclass 5mo ago
Phel has deep PHP interop built into the language: call any PHP function, instantiate classes, access globals via the php/ namespace from anywhere in your code. We also ship a Phel nREPL: a bencode-over-TCP server (phel nrepl) compatible with editor tooling like Calva, CIDER, and Conjure. Connect your editor and evaluate Phel code against a running process directly.
- pkphilip 5mo ago
  That is cool! thank you.
- ahmed1hsn 5mo ago
  as for interop with PHP, does it support Attributes: https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.attributes.overview.php https://www.php.net/manual/en/language.attributes.overview.p... ?

masijo 5mo ago

I've been following this project for a while, congratulations on the release! Even though I don't have much use for PHP at the moment, I wish it finds a niche in the market and becomes widely used. Good luck!

nz 5mo ago

Could not help but notice that this project has no explicit policy on whether AI contributions are allowed or not (i.e. nothing analogous to https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/ https://ziglang.org/code-of-conduct/).

__alexs 5mo ago
Culture wars are not worth anyones time participating in. Stop it.

TazeTSchnitzel 5mo ago

This is fun to see. I wonder how they handle the fact that PHP puts every type of thing in its own namespace (names of classes, functions, constants, methods, variables, member variables, static variables and class constants don't conflict with eachother) and how not all namespaces have case-sensitivity. That's very un-lisp, maybe it just uses its own lisp-specific namespace?

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segmondy 5mo ago

Love this!