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If your newborn is bleeding there is something wrong and you need to address it. See my longer comment above regarding this vitamin deficiency, why shots shoul

If your newborn is bleeding there is something wrong and you need to address it. See my longer comment above regarding this vitamin deficiency, why shots should not be the first response, and hints at why we have this status quo.

brendoelfrendo 5mo ago
If your newborn is bleeding in their brain, you may not realize something is wrong until there are irreversible consequences. Preventative supplementation with vitamin K seems to be the best thing you can do to address it before it happens.
- i_think_so 5mo ago
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  - brendoelfrendo 5mo ago
    What hypothetical? Vitamin K deficient bleeding can cause bleeding in the brain. It's mentioned in the article, and it's pretty common knowledge: https://www.cdc.gov/vitamin-k-deficiency/about/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vitamin-k-deficiency/about/index.html We're not just talking about a cut or scrape that bleeds uncontrollably, but also internal bleeding. > Stop trying to push big pharma products by scaring people. Vitamins? We're calling vitamins "big pharma products" now? > Women have been delivering babies without needing to poke holes in them for as long as there have been women and babies. Yeah, and I'm sure that there were deaths from VKDB back then, too. I'm not sure what this obsession with "poking holes" in babies is, either. It's an injection, they're not scary or traumatizing; it's a routine way of administering all kinds of medicine.
    - i_think_so 5mo ago
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      - brendoelfrendo 5mo ago
        I am completely at a loss. We've administered these injections for something like 60 years. They've saved lives. I don't see why this is controversial. > What, precisely, do you think happens when a doctor sticks a needle into a newborn? Magic? A small amount of bleeding? That, if uncontrolled, can be quickly treated because it's administered in a hospital setting? I don't think bleeding from injection sites is the cause of VKDB fatalities! > You know, during the whole Covid debacle I used to seethe every time I heard some self-righteous twit talk about "misinformation" and "disinformation", because they were selectively using those terms to silence and attack legitimate, independent scientists and medical professionals who were trying to advance the public's understanding and ultimately save lives. Is this some attempt at praising the anti-COVID vaccine crowd? Because those people aren't the unjustly silenced "independent scientists and medical professionals," they're quacks who were wrong. This was unfortunately a waste of time, because you don't seem to be interested in hearing about benefits of lifesaving medical interventions; instead, you just want to peddle conspiracies and invoke a fear of doctors. I am only glad that I made you so angry that you're hopefully done talking.
      - tomhow 5mo ago
        Stop this. We asked you not to fulminate on HN barely more than a week ago. Phrases like this are completely unacceptable here: How cheaply disingenuous of you Tell us you know nothing about healthcare without using "health" or "care". Did you forget that the totality of this discussion revolves around* What, precisely, do you think happens I used to seethe every time I heard some self-righteous twit I now understand the urge to silence someone who is completely full of crap and is likely to cause harm to others I can't imagine there would be many people on HN or indeed anywhere who don't want babies to have the best health at the start of their life. It doesn't make us “good” people to use that to justify being so hostile, indeed aggressive, to others in a discussion forum. Please have a good read of the guidelines and make an effort to observe them if you want to keep participating here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
UncleMeat 5mo ago
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- i_think_so 5mo ago
  Is this really necessary?
  - UncleMeat 5mo ago
    Yes. We have an effective medical intervention that saves the lives of babies. Halting this because of some imagined big pharma conspiracy to make more money from new parents by charging for Vitamin K shots creates more infant headstones. I find it reprehensible.

brendoelfrendo 5mo ago

If your newborn is bleeding in their brain, you may not realize something is wrong until there are irreversible consequences. Preventative supplementation with vitamin K seems to be the best thing you can do to address it before it happens.

i_think_so 5mo ago
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- brendoelfrendo 5mo ago
  What hypothetical? Vitamin K deficient bleeding can cause bleeding in the brain. It's mentioned in the article, and it's pretty common knowledge: https://www.cdc.gov/vitamin-k-deficiency/about/index.html https://www.cdc.gov/vitamin-k-deficiency/about/index.html We're not just talking about a cut or scrape that bleeds uncontrollably, but also internal bleeding. > Stop trying to push big pharma products by scaring people. Vitamins? We're calling vitamins "big pharma products" now? > Women have been delivering babies without needing to poke holes in them for as long as there have been women and babies. Yeah, and I'm sure that there were deaths from VKDB back then, too. I'm not sure what this obsession with "poking holes" in babies is, either. It's an injection, they're not scary or traumatizing; it's a routine way of administering all kinds of medicine.
  - i_think_so 5mo ago
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    - brendoelfrendo 5mo ago
      I am completely at a loss. We've administered these injections for something like 60 years. They've saved lives. I don't see why this is controversial. > What, precisely, do you think happens when a doctor sticks a needle into a newborn? Magic? A small amount of bleeding? That, if uncontrolled, can be quickly treated because it's administered in a hospital setting? I don't think bleeding from injection sites is the cause of VKDB fatalities! > You know, during the whole Covid debacle I used to seethe every time I heard some self-righteous twit talk about "misinformation" and "disinformation", because they were selectively using those terms to silence and attack legitimate, independent scientists and medical professionals who were trying to advance the public's understanding and ultimately save lives. Is this some attempt at praising the anti-COVID vaccine crowd? Because those people aren't the unjustly silenced "independent scientists and medical professionals," they're quacks who were wrong. This was unfortunately a waste of time, because you don't seem to be interested in hearing about benefits of lifesaving medical interventions; instead, you just want to peddle conspiracies and invoke a fear of doctors. I am only glad that I made you so angry that you're hopefully done talking.
    - tomhow 5mo ago
      Stop this. We asked you not to fulminate on HN barely more than a week ago. Phrases like this are completely unacceptable here: How cheaply disingenuous of you Tell us you know nothing about healthcare without using "health" or "care". Did you forget that the totality of this discussion revolves around* What, precisely, do you think happens I used to seethe every time I heard some self-righteous twit I now understand the urge to silence someone who is completely full of crap and is likely to cause harm to others I can't imagine there would be many people on HN or indeed anywhere who don't want babies to have the best health at the start of their life. It doesn't make us “good” people to use that to justify being so hostile, indeed aggressive, to others in a discussion forum. Please have a good read of the guidelines and make an effort to observe them if you want to keep participating here. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

UncleMeat 5mo ago

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i_think_so 5mo ago
Is this really necessary?
- UncleMeat 5mo ago
  Yes. We have an effective medical intervention that saves the lives of babies. Halting this because of some imagined big pharma conspiracy to make more money from new parents by charging for Vitamin K shots creates more infant headstones. I find it reprehensible.