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It sounds like you’ve just been around toxic and superficial people in your international travels and then extrapolated from them to their whole countries. Unf
by krustyburger 5mo ago
It sounds like you’ve just been around toxic and superficial people in your international travels and then extrapolated from them to their whole countries.
Unfortunately, they have people like that everywhere.
- giwook 5mo agoNot necessarily. South Korea is one example that I have intimate knowledge of where one's consumer habits (the clothes one wears, the car one drives, the logo on one's handbag) is the ultimate signal of status. You're automatically pre-judged by complete strangers without having to say a single word. There are always exceptions to the rule, but it is in fact an unspoken rule over there.
- bryceacc 5mo agoare you not describing "toxic and superficial" ? I specifically take issue with pre-judgement based on clothes, cars, and logos.
- snapcaster 5mo agosuperficial maybe, "toxic" is your own personal idealogy
- giwook 5mo agoI think he was saying it was an unfair extrapolation to say that OP's limited experience with a small subset of people defined an entire nation. I'm saying that in the case of South Korea, that extrapolation is very much accurate.
- RigelKentaurus 5mo agoThe same is true in India. I live in the US, and when I visit relatives in India, they are nonplussed that I can afford a fancier car but choose to drive a Toyota. Clothes, watches, my phone brand - everything is under constant analysis and people feel free to comment on everything. I am used to it now but it gets tiring.
- computerdork 5mo agoWas going to say this. Am in the US, and have Indian friends, and they are much more brand conscious than the average American.
- ChoGGi 5mo agoLiving in Canada, I specially choose clothes without branding or branding I can remove. I don't advertise for free.
- JKCalhoun 5mo agoYeah, that's been my strategy since… college. Nike logo? Polo logo? Not a chance.
- computerdork 5mo agoTry my best to do the same:)
- a34729t 5mo agoNope, the US (especially the West Coast and Mountain States) is extremely non superficial in certain very odd ways: * Almost nobody cares what kind of car you drive. The richest people I know literally don't care and drive Subarus and Toyotas and Ford pickups. * Nobody cares about watches or jewelry. * Clothing? It's literally Costco or Walmart for people I know who have tons of money. Unless their wives/gfs/bfs/husbands buy them something fancy for their birthday. * Fancy wines and liquor? Wines yes, scotch yes. But it's not outrageous. The things where you notice the money are private planes and nice houses/apartments (and multiples thereof) and art. And perhaps caring even less what people think of them.
- chasd00 5mo agoIn mountain states everything exposed to nature is just beaten into an average. The environment is so harsh it makes sense things affected aren’t much of a status symbol or at least don’t remain one for long hah.
- eks391 5mo agoNot just mountain states. I lived in one of the windy US deserts, and everything outside is minimally cared about because it's getting practically sand blasted several times a year.