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I think you’re giving Trump too much credit. If he starts firing shots again the war is illegal. The 60 day window is over. He has no appropriated money to figh

I think you’re giving Trump too much credit. If he starts firing shots again the war is illegal. The 60 day window is over. He has no appropriated money to fight the war, no public support, and no way out. There is no chess game here. It’s not even checkers. He is just trying to not have to admit he made a mistake - just with billions of dollars and lives on the line. Such sad.

bcjdjsndon 5mo ago
> If he starts firing shots again the war is illegal. Whos gona prosecute america? Germans ar still waiting for somebody to go to jail for Dresden, and rightly so
- sailfast 5mo ago
  Americans will need to hold the executive accountable here. Tough to trust, I know. RE Dresden - trickier with an actual, declared war. We’re also still waiting for some Germans to get put in jail. Not sure WWII is a productive example here haha, but I take your point
  - bcjdjsndon 5mo ago
    Dresden was the firebombing of houses, under the rationale that as citizens produced materials for the war, they weren't civilians anymore but combatants. That also included children and babies. Winston Churchill personally ordered it. Textbook warcrime. But that only matters if there's someone to prosecute you, and they weren't going to send themselves to jail
chneu 5mo ago
He will just say it's a different operation. That's what they've been doing and it's working. Republicans have no desire to stop Trump. Democrats don't care either cuz they want this power once they're elected.
- mekdoonggi 5mo ago
  It's worse than having no desire to stop him. Republicans want to compete to bow down to Trump like a gaggle of serfs. It is a debasement of human dignity to watch them grovel.
deepsun 5mo ago
No mistakes, public largely forgot about Epstein files with the Iran war.
pjc50 5mo ago
> If he starts firing shots again the war is illegal. The 60 day window is over. He has no appropriated money to fight the war, no public support, and no way out. There's at least two other belligerents in this war who get a say, as well as a large number of other countries which count as victims (everyone from Lebanon to UAE). No US decision can stop Israel and Iran from fighting. He has operational control of the armed forces. This has never been disputed recently; he can order whatever shots he wants. The armed forces funding is in one whole pot which is guaranteed even against a "shutdown". He also has total legal immunity for official acts.
brookst 5mo ago
This administration literally told congress that it has a right to bomb Iran again without congressional oversight specifically because there's a cease fire in place. I wish I was kidding. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g4xexy4w7o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g4xexy4w7o

bcjdjsndon 5mo ago

> If he starts firing shots again the war is illegal. Whos gona prosecute america? Germans ar still waiting for somebody to go to jail for Dresden, and rightly so

sailfast 5mo ago
Americans will need to hold the executive accountable here. Tough to trust, I know. RE Dresden - trickier with an actual, declared war. We’re also still waiting for some Germans to get put in jail. Not sure WWII is a productive example here haha, but I take your point
- bcjdjsndon 5mo ago
  Dresden was the firebombing of houses, under the rationale that as citizens produced materials for the war, they weren't civilians anymore but combatants. That also included children and babies. Winston Churchill personally ordered it. Textbook warcrime. But that only matters if there's someone to prosecute you, and they weren't going to send themselves to jail

chneu 5mo ago

He will just say it's a different operation. That's what they've been doing and it's working. Republicans have no desire to stop Trump. Democrats don't care either cuz they want this power once they're elected.

mekdoonggi 5mo ago
It's worse than having no desire to stop him. Republicans want to compete to bow down to Trump like a gaggle of serfs. It is a debasement of human dignity to watch them grovel.

deepsun 5mo ago

No mistakes, public largely forgot about Epstein files with the Iran war.

pjc50 5mo ago

> If he starts firing shots again the war is illegal. The 60 day window is over. He has no appropriated money to fight the war, no public support, and no way out. There's at least two other belligerents in this war who get a say, as well as a large number of other countries which count as victims (everyone from Lebanon to UAE). No US decision can stop Israel and Iran from fighting. He has operational control of the armed forces. This has never been disputed recently; he can order whatever shots he wants. The armed forces funding is in one whole pot which is guaranteed even against a "shutdown". He also has total legal immunity for official acts.

brookst 5mo ago

This administration literally told congress that it has a right to bomb Iran again without congressional oversight specifically because there's a cease fire in place. I wish I was kidding. https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g4xexy4w7o https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c4g4xexy4w7o