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Yes, recency bias.

coldtea 6mo ago
Nope, raw "actually good balance of stuff I like and stuff I don't like in those decades" pragmatism. I could not give less fucks for having AI and smartphones and most other stuff, including all the fancy new medical procedures which are barely incremental. Fridges, basic 90s-style internet and mini-skirts and welfare, and cheap housing, and jobs-a-plenty, more affordable healthcare, and the lifestyle, I can use just fine! And I'd avoid the Plague or feudal times too. Including the techno-feudal times of today. Pretend people can't have periods they'd be fine to live again and might prefer to today is bullshit.
- munksbeer 6mo ago
  The thing is, the option you want is available today. There are communities all around the world that live much simpler lives. Some just because that is how they are, others because they've formed communities to escape all the things you don't like. Genuine question, have you ever investigated these options? If so, why did you dismiss them?
  - esseph 6mo ago
    > The thing is, the option you want is available today. Disagree Removing yourself from the computing environment does not remove the impact it has on the world and around you. That is the equivalent of sticking one's head in the sand.
    - munksbeer 6mo ago
      The option is still available to you though. Sticking your head in the sand could be a great strategy if it improves your happiness and wellbeing.
      - esseph 6mo ago
        > The option is still available to you though. Sticking your head in the sand could be a great strategy if it improves your happiness and wellbeing. Right now I am picturing the dog drinking coffee in the burning room meme.
        munksbeer 6mo ago
        I really think this is extreme doomerism. Things are not that bad. And as I say, wouldn't you be happier if you lived in an environment where you were not impacted by all the stuff you dislike?
        esseph 6mo ago
        "Just take soma" is what you are telling me right now. Four things: 1. I am a parent. Ignoring like the world doesn't exist is not an option. > wouldn't you be happier if you lived in an environment where you were not impacted by all the stuff you dislike? 2. That would not be possible. 3. If you have the capability to do something, some believe you have an obligation to. Actively working to not make a shit world requires a deep awareness and understanding that leads to consistent action. 4. Trying to isolate yourself like in the face of so much suffering, including those around you, seems like the most selfish thing I can imagine. Could never be me. > Things are not that bad. For YOU maybe, for fucks sake.
        munksbeer 6mo ago
        > For YOU maybe, for fucks sake. And many, many others. Don't project your reality on everyone else.
        esseph 6mo ago
        I choose not to ignore the suffering of others. Only through awareness and understanding of it can I work to reduce it.
        CRConrad 5mo ago
  - coldtea 6mo ago
    Because I don't want a fucking enclave to larp in, and even if I did, no place is safe from late stage capitalism and its corporations and politics. I want the era/society/world, not mere personal or communal play-acting it.
vinceguidry 6mo ago
Please. Covid destroyed everything in my life that I loved.
bryanrasmussen 6mo ago
anti-recency bias, with a less recency bias tagged on before. I gotta say it reminds me a bit of that old Louis C.K bit where black people can't be messing with time machines. I guess gay people can't either. I don't think if you were gay you'd want the 60s, 70s, 80s or even 90s - maybe late 90s. I mean it does seem that there are many groups of people I could think of that might be like 10 years ago please, but not much further back than that. Then again social progress not being evenly distributed might mean that 20 years ago and in a different country might be equivalent to 10 years for some life scenarios.

Yes, recency bias.

Nope, raw "actually good balance of stuff I like and stuff I don't like in those decades" pragmatism. I could not give less fucks for having AI and smartphones and most other stuff, including all the fancy new medical procedures which are barely incremental. Fridges, basic 90s-style internet and mini-skirts and welfare, and cheap housing, and jobs-a-plenty, more affordable healthcare, and the lifestyle, I can use just fine! And I'd avoid the Plague or feudal times too. Including the techno-feudal times of today. Pretend people can't have periods they'd be fine to live again and might prefer to today is bullshit.

munksbeer 6mo ago
The thing is, the option you want is available today. There are communities all around the world that live much simpler lives. Some just because that is how they are, others because they've formed communities to escape all the things you don't like. Genuine question, have you ever investigated these options? If so, why did you dismiss them?
- esseph 6mo ago
  > The thing is, the option you want is available today. Disagree Removing yourself from the computing environment does not remove the impact it has on the world and around you. That is the equivalent of sticking one's head in the sand.
  - munksbeer 6mo ago
    The option is still available to you though. Sticking your head in the sand could be a great strategy if it improves your happiness and wellbeing.
    - esseph 6mo ago
      > The option is still available to you though. Sticking your head in the sand could be a great strategy if it improves your happiness and wellbeing. Right now I am picturing the dog drinking coffee in the burning room meme.
      - munksbeer 6mo ago
        I really think this is extreme doomerism. Things are not that bad. And as I say, wouldn't you be happier if you lived in an environment where you were not impacted by all the stuff you dislike?
        esseph 6mo ago
        "Just take soma" is what you are telling me right now. Four things: 1. I am a parent. Ignoring like the world doesn't exist is not an option. > wouldn't you be happier if you lived in an environment where you were not impacted by all the stuff you dislike? 2. That would not be possible. 3. If you have the capability to do something, some believe you have an obligation to. Actively working to not make a shit world requires a deep awareness and understanding that leads to consistent action. 4. Trying to isolate yourself like in the face of so much suffering, including those around you, seems like the most selfish thing I can imagine. Could never be me. > Things are not that bad. For YOU maybe, for fucks sake.
        munksbeer 6mo ago
        > For YOU maybe, for fucks sake. And many, many others. Don't project your reality on everyone else.
        esseph 6mo ago
        I choose not to ignore the suffering of others. Only through awareness and understanding of it can I work to reduce it.
        CRConrad 5mo ago
- coldtea 6mo ago
  Because I don't want a fucking enclave to larp in, and even if I did, no place is safe from late stage capitalism and its corporations and politics. I want the era/society/world, not mere personal or communal play-acting it.

vinceguidry 6mo ago

Please. Covid destroyed everything in my life that I loved.

bryanrasmussen 6mo ago

anti-recency bias, with a less recency bias tagged on before. I gotta say it reminds me a bit of that old Louis C.K bit where black people can't be messing with time machines. I guess gay people can't either. I don't think if you were gay you'd want the 60s, 70s, 80s or even 90s - maybe late 90s. I mean it does seem that there are many groups of people I could think of that might be like 10 years ago please, but not much further back than that. Then again social progress not being evenly distributed might mean that 20 years ago and in a different country might be equivalent to 10 years for some life scenarios.