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From an American perspective, i don't trust the government with the implementation details, nor do I trust our political climate, misaligned incentives, and gen
by wyldberry 5mo ago
From an American perspective, i don't trust the government with the implementation details, nor do I trust our political climate, misaligned incentives, and general disinterest in good governance to implement something so sensitive.
If I lived in say, Sweden, I feel much more comfortable trusting their government to implement. In America, I feel I must always vote in a way that prevents giving any power to the government that I wouldn't want my political opponents to have over me.
- slaw 5mo agothe grass is always greener on the other side
- AlecSchueler 5mo agoYou think people in Nordic countries think they'd be able to trust their government more if they were American?
- slaw 5mo agoOP never lived in Europe and is looking through rose-colored glasses.
- AlecSchueler 5mo agoSometimes your grass is just yellow.
- wyldberry 5mo agoNo, it's not rose-colored glasses. It's a position based on the level of trust certain societies have. As a person, i inherently distrust anyone who has state sanctioned authority over me and a monopoly on violence. Compared to the US, nordic countries are more homogeneous and higher trust overall. If I was living in those countries, I'd defer more, due to it's culture and small size. By small size I mean population. Sweden is less than 11 million, smaller than the LA metro area. My statement was not a ethical judgement that Sweden or Nordics are more trustworthy. Just that they are smaller with a more homogeneous, higher trust society. Thus if I were there I'd trust the government to more likely represent the will of the people broadly, as opposed to the US Congress.
- soco 5mo agoIn said US of America, when the government wants to know something about you, they will get everything they want from the companies - it's even written clearly in the US laws. So I'm not sure why (or where) you draw that line...
- sterlind 5mo ago1. if they have to subpoena each site each time they need user data, it reduces mass surveillance risk. I'm okay with cops getting a warrant to access someone's gmail. I'm not okay requiring everyone to use email.gov. 2. I use a VPN and pseudonyms. they could unmask me if they cared to, but it'd be annoying. it'd be a lot more annoying if they wanted to unmask every VPN user all the time.
- NetMageSCW 5mo agoBeing available as part of Google Cliud means subpoenaing Google is probably sufficient for most web sites.