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> DevOps and DBA teams Ah so two teams nobody should listen to.

• frollogaston 6mo ago
  At least would take it with a grain of salt when the DBA wants you to depend more on the DBA.
  • slopinthebag 6mo ago
    Same with devops tbh. "Hey everyone, we need to chose the option that involves us the most and provides us the most job security"
    • mschuster91 6mo ago
      Well... eventually the company learns the lesson the hard way, either because a site goes down or gets 0wned. Then everyone will cry about "how this could happen", and the ops people will tell you in response "we warned you that this would happen, here's the receipts, now GTFO".
      • shermantanktop 6mo ago
        Preparing to say “I told you so” is a fairly obvious incentive for someone to act like Chicken Little. And of course sometimes they are right, but not always. Lots of great people in both devops and security. But when teams position themselves as the conscience of the org and the gatekeepers of production, the defensive victim mentality can get pretty strong.