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There is an AI working group in one of the dicasteries that has produced two excellent publications: Encountering Artificial Intelligence (https://jmt.scholast

by jquinby 5mo ago

There is an AI working group in one of the dicasteries that has produced two excellent publications: Encountering Artificial Intelligence (https://jmt.scholasticahq.com/article/91230-encountering-artificial-intelligence-ethical-and-anthropological-investigations https://jmt.scholasticahq.com/article/91230-encountering-art...) Reclaiming Human Agency in the Age of Artificial Intelligence (https://jmt.scholasticahq.com/article/154545-reclaiming-human-agency-in-the-age-of-artificial-intelligence https://jmt.scholasticahq.com/article/154545-reclaiming-huma...)

jdw64 5mo ago
I think I will read this while running my agents in parallel. Thank you, my friend. The writing is genuinely excellent. In tech communities, we often talk about how many times productivity will increase, or whether AI has consciousness. But in religious documents, the focus is often on how the problems of the vulnerable and the community will change. That is interesting to me. The worldview is Western and religious, so it feels somewhat unfamiliar, but at the same time, it seems useful as a way to rediscover values that we may have forgotten.
- osullivj 5mo ago
  Catholic Social Teaching: 19th C origins. An alternate base to Marxism for social justice.
  - throw0101a 5mo ago
    > Catholic Social Teaching: 19th C origins. An alternate base to Marxism for social justice. See specifically perhaps the encyclical Rerum novarum (Rights and Duties of Capital and Labor) from 1891: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching Various others over the decades.
    - dhosek 5mo ago
      Rerum Novarum was written by Leo XIII. When Robert Prevost took as his papal name Leo XIV, it was a clear signal of priorities, at least to those who are educated in church history and teaching. (There aren’t many names that carry a signal as clear as Leo. The only name that would have been in the same league might have been Francis II).
      - bombcar 5mo ago
        Peter II also indicates something.
    - bigstrat2003 5mo ago
      Rerum Novarum is an absolute banger. I had the pleasure of discovering it thanks to the discourse surrounding Leo XIV choosing his papal name, and I'm really glad I did. Leo XIII had some really insightful things to say about the problems surrounding workers' rights.
    - toyg 5mo ago
      It should be said that, as in many other fields, it was effectively forced on the church by external development. Marx published The Communist Manifesto in 1848 and Das Kapital in 1867; it took more than a generation for the church to accept that workers' rights were a thing. Even after that shift, the Catholic Church continued to be a fundamentally reactionary force in the realm of social policies, all the way through the second world war.
      - stbede 5mo ago
        A two millennia old institution rarely operates on the scale of decades. The workers’ rights movement may have become a pressing political issue then, but workers have been around for thousands of years. Most genuinely new ideas are actually terrible, so why not approach them cautiously? Given the terrible outcomes of the French Revolution and later the Bolshevik Revolution, the hesitancy seems justified.
      - throw0101a 5mo ago
  - bluegatty 5mo ago
    'Communitarianism'.
- keybored 5mo ago
  It can be fruitful to consider the potential negative ramifications of one’s work for once. Especially so when the program is busy anyway.
jonjacky 5mo ago
Also pertinent and well-written, from the Vatican itself, including some quotes from Pope Francis: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20250128_antiqua-et-nova_en.html https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... ANTIQUA ET NOVA: Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence. "Francis ... on 14 January 2025 ... approved this Note and ordered its publication." via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43750835 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43750835, comment by jimmcslim on Pope Francis has died.

by jquinby 5mo ago

jdw64 5mo ago

I think I will read this while running my agents in parallel. Thank you, my friend. The writing is genuinely excellent. In tech communities, we often talk about how many times productivity will increase, or whether AI has consciousness. But in religious documents, the focus is often on how the problems of the vulnerable and the community will change. That is interesting to me. The worldview is Western and religious, so it feels somewhat unfamiliar, but at the same time, it seems useful as a way to rediscover values that we may have forgotten.

osullivj 5mo ago
Catholic Social Teaching: 19th C origins. An alternate base to Marxism for social justice.
- throw0101a 5mo ago
  > Catholic Social Teaching: 19th C origins. An alternate base to Marxism for social justice. See specifically perhaps the encyclical Rerum novarum (Rights and Duties of Capital and Labor) from 1891: * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rerum_novarum * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Catholic_social_teaching Various others over the decades.
  - dhosek 5mo ago
    Rerum Novarum was written by Leo XIII. When Robert Prevost took as his papal name Leo XIV, it was a clear signal of priorities, at least to those who are educated in church history and teaching. (There aren’t many names that carry a signal as clear as Leo. The only name that would have been in the same league might have been Francis II).
    - bombcar 5mo ago
      Peter II also indicates something.
  - bigstrat2003 5mo ago
    Rerum Novarum is an absolute banger. I had the pleasure of discovering it thanks to the discourse surrounding Leo XIV choosing his papal name, and I'm really glad I did. Leo XIII had some really insightful things to say about the problems surrounding workers' rights.
  - toyg 5mo ago
    It should be said that, as in many other fields, it was effectively forced on the church by external development. Marx published The Communist Manifesto in 1848 and Das Kapital in 1867; it took more than a generation for the church to accept that workers' rights were a thing. Even after that shift, the Catholic Church continued to be a fundamentally reactionary force in the realm of social policies, all the way through the second world war.
    - stbede 5mo ago
      A two millennia old institution rarely operates on the scale of decades. The workers’ rights movement may have become a pressing political issue then, but workers have been around for thousands of years. Most genuinely new ideas are actually terrible, so why not approach them cautiously? Given the terrible outcomes of the French Revolution and later the Bolshevik Revolution, the hesitancy seems justified.
    - throw0101a 5mo ago
- bluegatty 5mo ago
  'Communitarianism'.
keybored 5mo ago
It can be fruitful to consider the potential negative ramifications of one’s work for once. Especially so when the program is busy anyway.

jonjacky 5mo ago

Also pertinent and well-written, from the Vatican itself, including some quotes from Pope Francis: https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/documents/rc_ddf_doc_20250128_antiqua-et-nova_en.html https://www.vatican.va/roman_curia/congregations/cfaith/docu... ANTIQUA ET NOVA: Note on the Relationship Between Artificial Intelligence and Human Intelligence. "Francis ... on 14 January 2025 ... approved this Note and ordered its publication." via https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43750835 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43750835, comment by jimmcslim on Pope Francis has died.