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>>and see what has happened in Europe as a massive cautionary tale As a European - what has happened to us, exactly? I'm curious what kind of thing you think i

>>and see what has happened in Europe as a massive cautionary tale As a European - what has happened to us, exactly? I'm curious what kind of thing you think is happening to Europe that is such disaster that even China should be afraid of it.

10xDev 6mo ago
European GDP per capita has not grown since the crash in 2008. Ever since we have heard that immigrants are being imported for jobs, yet the economy only gets worse, house prices increases due to supply and demand and crime rate is not equal among groups. Yes some people are just white supremacists but also, immigration hasn't solved anything in Europe in recent times. It is not like the US where you have a massive startup scene and get an Elon Musk from South Africa to create jobs and add meaningful value.
- gambiting 6mo ago
  >>Ever since we have heard that immigrants are being imported for jobs You do realize that most of European migration is internal, right? Polish workers going to Germany, that kind of thing? It would be like complaining that American migration is crazy because of all the people moving from Kansas to take jobs in California. >> house prices increases due to supply and demand and crime rate is not equal among groups As compared to....? >>It is not like the US where you have a massive startup scene and get an Elon Musk from South Africa to create jobs and add meaningful value. I'm like, honestly not sure what to say to that. I could maybe start listing successful businesses started and/or ran by immigrants in the EU if that helps? Or is the fact that none of them are as famous as Elon Musk a dealbreaker?
  - mytailorisrich 6mo ago
    It isn't true that most migration is internal, actually. Across the whole EU in 2023 77% of new immigrants were non-EU [1], for instance. [1] https://www.rfberlin.com/immigrant-population-eu/ https://www.rfberlin.com/immigrant-population-eu/
- tssva 6mo ago
  Not getting an Elon Musk seems like a massive positive.
mytailorisrich 6mo ago
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- gambiting 6mo ago
  >>Mass immigration in Europe and its effects. Can you name a few of these effects that China sees as crazy?
  - BoingBoomTschak 5mo ago
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    - amanaplanacanal 5mo ago
      Ha! In the US women don't need to wait for immigrants to be abused or assaulted. Native born Americans do it.
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    - gambiting 5mo ago
      >>Complete demographic destruction In what way? Immigrants, even in France, are a tiny minority. How do you feel that your demographics have been "completely" destroyed?
      - BoingBoomTschak 5mo ago
        >Immigrants, even in France, are a tiny minority I said "demographic", nothing about the legal concept of immigration/citizenship.
        gambiting 5mo ago
        Ok, so please explain what you mean because I'm still not sure what exactly "complete destruction of demographics" means in this context.

10xDev 6mo ago

European GDP per capita has not grown since the crash in 2008. Ever since we have heard that immigrants are being imported for jobs, yet the economy only gets worse, house prices increases due to supply and demand and crime rate is not equal among groups. Yes some people are just white supremacists but also, immigration hasn't solved anything in Europe in recent times. It is not like the US where you have a massive startup scene and get an Elon Musk from South Africa to create jobs and add meaningful value.

gambiting 6mo ago
>>Ever since we have heard that immigrants are being imported for jobs You do realize that most of European migration is internal, right? Polish workers going to Germany, that kind of thing? It would be like complaining that American migration is crazy because of all the people moving from Kansas to take jobs in California. >> house prices increases due to supply and demand and crime rate is not equal among groups As compared to....? >>It is not like the US where you have a massive startup scene and get an Elon Musk from South Africa to create jobs and add meaningful value. I'm like, honestly not sure what to say to that. I could maybe start listing successful businesses started and/or ran by immigrants in the EU if that helps? Or is the fact that none of them are as famous as Elon Musk a dealbreaker?
- mytailorisrich 6mo ago
  It isn't true that most migration is internal, actually. Across the whole EU in 2023 77% of new immigrants were non-EU [1], for instance. [1] https://www.rfberlin.com/immigrant-population-eu/ https://www.rfberlin.com/immigrant-population-eu/
tssva 6mo ago
Not getting an Elon Musk seems like a massive positive.

mytailorisrich 6mo ago

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gambiting 6mo ago
>>Mass immigration in Europe and its effects. Can you name a few of these effects that China sees as crazy?
- BoingBoomTschak 5mo ago
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  - amanaplanacanal 5mo ago
    Ha! In the US women don't need to wait for immigrants to be abused or assaulted. Native born Americans do it.
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  - gambiting 5mo ago
    >>Complete demographic destruction In what way? Immigrants, even in France, are a tiny minority. How do you feel that your demographics have been "completely" destroyed?
    - BoingBoomTschak 5mo ago
      >Immigrants, even in France, are a tiny minority I said "demographic", nothing about the legal concept of immigration/citizenship.
      - gambiting 5mo ago
        Ok, so please explain what you mean because I'm still not sure what exactly "complete destruction of demographics" means in this context.