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You would just need to add your emulators as non-steam games in Steam. Then you get controller support.

retired 5mo ago
But then I would have to install Steam, create an account, have it running in the background. And in case of macOS I would have to install Rosetta as well. It would be better if they released drivers instead.
- bigyabai 5mo ago
  The Steam client is free and well-supported on all gaming OSes. It also provides Steam Input, which ensures customization parity with Steam Deck. In Valve's eyes, cross-platform support is already here. A custom driver could always be made by the community. It feels a little absurd to expect Valve to write and support four different gamepad drivers, when they only need one.
  - retired 5mo ago
    > A custom driver could always be made by the community. It feels a little absurd to expect Valve to write and support four different gamepad drivers, when they only need one. That is what the entire industry does though. Imagine if you needed an application running in the background for every peripheral you have, for your monitor, for your GPU, for running a hotspot on your smartphone over USB. Imagine having to install a piece of software to access a thumb drive. And that all those applications also needed user accounts. That is the entire point of having drivers.
    - bigyabai 5mo ago
      For complex gamepads, the entire industry most certainly doesn't do that. It's not a class-compliant device, the preexisting OS-level mechanisms for Xinput and DirectInput do not accommodate anything but fight rudimentary fight sticks. The same goes for the original touchpad-based Steam Controller.
- arijun 5mo ago
  I don’t think steam needs Rosetta anymore.
  - retired 5mo ago
    Just checked. Still needs it. I don't have Rosetta installed and I don't want to install Rosetta just to be able to use a game controller with DuckStation or Aethersx2. When I can also connect a PS4 controller and not need any of that.
    - hamdingers 5mo ago
      You have an old Steam.app stub, download the latest one and rosetta will not be necessary. If you had rosetta it would be able to self-update to the new universal binary, without it you have to do this one update manually.
      - retired 5mo ago
        I downloaded from here and I instantly get a pop-up about requiring Rosetta. https://store.steampowered.com/about/ https://store.steampowered.com/about/
        hamdingers 5mo ago
        Odd if true. It's clearly a universal binary, not sure what's going wrong for you. $ file steam_osx steam_osx: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64] steam_osx (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 steam_osx (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
        retired 5mo ago
        CMD+I on Steam.app says: "Application (Intel)". % file steam_osx steam_osx: Mach-O universal binary with 1 architecture: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] steam_osx (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64

But then I would have to install Steam, create an account, have it running in the background. And in case of macOS I would have to install Rosetta as well. It would be better if they released drivers instead.

bigyabai 5mo ago
The Steam client is free and well-supported on all gaming OSes. It also provides Steam Input, which ensures customization parity with Steam Deck. In Valve's eyes, cross-platform support is already here. A custom driver could always be made by the community. It feels a little absurd to expect Valve to write and support four different gamepad drivers, when they only need one.
- retired 5mo ago
  > A custom driver could always be made by the community. It feels a little absurd to expect Valve to write and support four different gamepad drivers, when they only need one. That is what the entire industry does though. Imagine if you needed an application running in the background for every peripheral you have, for your monitor, for your GPU, for running a hotspot on your smartphone over USB. Imagine having to install a piece of software to access a thumb drive. And that all those applications also needed user accounts. That is the entire point of having drivers.
  - bigyabai 5mo ago
    For complex gamepads, the entire industry most certainly doesn't do that. It's not a class-compliant device, the preexisting OS-level mechanisms for Xinput and DirectInput do not accommodate anything but fight rudimentary fight sticks. The same goes for the original touchpad-based Steam Controller.
arijun 5mo ago
I don’t think steam needs Rosetta anymore.
- retired 5mo ago
  Just checked. Still needs it. I don't have Rosetta installed and I don't want to install Rosetta just to be able to use a game controller with DuckStation or Aethersx2. When I can also connect a PS4 controller and not need any of that.
  - hamdingers 5mo ago
    You have an old Steam.app stub, download the latest one and rosetta will not be necessary. If you had rosetta it would be able to self-update to the new universal binary, without it you have to do this one update manually.
    - retired 5mo ago
      I downloaded from here and I instantly get a pop-up about requiring Rosetta. https://store.steampowered.com/about/ https://store.steampowered.com/about/
      - hamdingers 5mo ago
        Odd if true. It's clearly a universal binary, not sure what's going wrong for you. $ file steam_osx steam_osx: Mach-O universal binary with 2 architectures: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] [arm64] steam_osx (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64 steam_osx (for architecture arm64): Mach-O 64-bit executable arm64
        retired 5mo ago
        CMD+I on Steam.app says: "Application (Intel)". % file steam_osx steam_osx: Mach-O universal binary with 1 architecture: [x86_64:Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64] steam_osx (for architecture x86_64): Mach-O 64-bit executable x86_64