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China has surpassed the US in total energy generation, and the gap is growing in their favor every year. Japan never surpassed the US in power or industrial ou

China has surpassed the US in total energy generation, and the gap is growing in their favor every year. Japan never surpassed the US in power or industrial output. China is different. They’ve clearly surpassed the US in some key areas.

EA-3167 5mo ago
I would certainly expect a country with 4x the population of the US, which is used as the center of global manufacturing, to need a lot of power. I’m not sure that’s something that anyone should be concerned about from a geopolitical point of view. Likewise expecting Japan to have ever done the same is… silly.
- TitaRusell 5mo ago
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- esafak 5mo ago
  You're not concerned about the biggest army in the world flexing its muscles?
  - EA-3167 5mo ago
    If the size of an army represented a reliable measure of its ability to project power, we’d all be trembling at the might of North Korea.
  - mghackerlady 5mo ago
    Not really, china has never started a war and overall seems to understand it as a pointless yet necessary endeavour
    - Lio 5mo ago
      China has 100% started wars. The Sino-Vietnamese War for starters.
      - tartoran 5mo ago
        Not in the same sense the US or Russia. The Sino-Vietnamese war was brief, about a month. Compare that to US or Russian wars. Now, Im not saying that China won't start wars since they've become a lot stronger. Just looking at it through a historic perspective.
        EA-3167 5mo ago
        I'm sure that the people of Tibet at the very least would feel strongly about the notion of a peaceful, non-expansionist China. You could ask the people of the Philippines as well, or for an admittedly more complicated answer the people of Japan and the RoK. China is also happily supporting Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, which makes the "not waging war" distinction a bit academic.
        mghackerlady 5mo ago
        I never said they were peaceful and non-expansionist, just that it's unlikely they'd turn to war for those gains. They also have fought wars, and my wording was admittedly bad. They haven't fought a serious war in a long time, and their military activity in general has been limited to a few border standoffs which I certainly wouldn't take as an indication of its willingness to fight for something like expansion
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EA-3167 5mo ago

I would certainly expect a country with 4x the population of the US, which is used as the center of global manufacturing, to need a lot of power. I’m not sure that’s something that anyone should be concerned about from a geopolitical point of view. Likewise expecting Japan to have ever done the same is… silly.

TitaRusell 5mo ago
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esafak 5mo ago
You're not concerned about the biggest army in the world flexing its muscles?
- EA-3167 5mo ago
  If the size of an army represented a reliable measure of its ability to project power, we’d all be trembling at the might of North Korea.
- mghackerlady 5mo ago
  Not really, china has never started a war and overall seems to understand it as a pointless yet necessary endeavour
  - Lio 5mo ago
    China has 100% started wars. The Sino-Vietnamese War for starters.
    - tartoran 5mo ago
      Not in the same sense the US or Russia. The Sino-Vietnamese war was brief, about a month. Compare that to US or Russian wars. Now, Im not saying that China won't start wars since they've become a lot stronger. Just looking at it through a historic perspective.
      - EA-3167 5mo ago
        I'm sure that the people of Tibet at the very least would feel strongly about the notion of a peaceful, non-expansionist China. You could ask the people of the Philippines as well, or for an admittedly more complicated answer the people of Japan and the RoK. China is also happily supporting Russia in their invasion of Ukraine, which makes the "not waging war" distinction a bit academic.
        mghackerlady 5mo ago
        I never said they were peaceful and non-expansionist, just that it's unlikely they'd turn to war for those gains. They also have fought wars, and my wording was admittedly bad. They haven't fought a serious war in a long time, and their military activity in general has been limited to a few border standoffs which I certainly wouldn't take as an indication of its willingness to fight for something like expansion

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