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This is a different discussion from the original we started with i.e. your lack of knowledge of Oil economy, its importance to the world and the UAE's role in t

This is a different discussion from the original we started with i.e. your lack of knowledge of Oil economy, its importance to the world and the UAE's role in that. If you want a discussion on this topic open a new thread (instead of hiding here) have everybody engage and see what you get. You will be laughed out of the thread. With every comment of yours, your cluelessness about Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters, Islamic Fundamentalism etc. all relating to the Middle East (ME) countries becomes more and more apparent. What has happened to the ME countries after WWII is a result of their own misguided fixation on the destruction of Israel. Instead of coexisting like North Korea/South Korea, China/Taiwan, India/Pakistan etc. the fundamentalists in the ME countries ruined themselves and the Palestinian cause. Israel had offered a two-state solution for the Palestine problem many times, but every time the ME countries scuttled it thus making the ME wars inevitable. The US (the sole superpower) being Israel's ally and security guarantor meant that it will safeguard Israel by taking out its stated enemies which is what happened. Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. The rest of the world does not care about the fate of the ME countries as long as their Oil needs are met. This is "Realpolitik" at play and is how geopolitics works. Hence now enlightened countries like UAE/Qatar/Oman/etc. have moved away from past policies and are charting their own independent courses. This is also why Saudi Arabia is fast-tracking its reforms to modernity. I can provide you with links to a dozen books/papers elaborating the above but i fear it will all be wasted given your breathtaking ignorance and unwillingness to learn. You seem to live in a fantasy world of your own making with no relevance to reality and how the world actually works.

don_esteban 6mo ago
I bow to your grand understanding of Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters etc. Just somehow can't fathom how (with all your superior understanding) you can utter this nonsense: Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. If you had not noticed, the oil and gas (and fertilizer, and aluminium, and helium) are still barely dripping, not flowing. And the end does not really appear in sight. The damage is definitively not managed and stabilized. My original point was that UAE raising their production capacity is irrelevant as long as Hormuz is not open, as the bypass pipeline is of limited capacity. The only relevant thing you were able to say (but not substantiate) is that surely UEA will be able to build a parallel pipeline in 2 years. Time will tell.
- rramadass 6mo ago
  Again, zero understanding of what i had written. The "were" in Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. refers to past ME conflicts and how eventually they were all managed and stabilized. If you cannot comprehend basic English nothing can be done. As regards the current conflict, it is still ongoing and so the situation is in flux. But what can be said is that the effects so far have been muted than what was anticipated. Here is a detailed analysis; but the nuances need some thought which might be beyond you - The Weirdest Aspect of the Iran War That Has Oil Experts Scratching Their Heads - https://medium.com/newsarticulated/the-weirdest-aspect-of-the-iran-war-that-has-oil-experts-scratching-their-heads-b8b3c8a2fc53 https://medium.com/newsarticulated/the-weirdest-aspect-of-th... Your original point (if there was any) had been shown to be clueless with simple math (ADCOP capacity as a percentage of OPEC cap) and geography (bypassing Hormuz). The previously linked articles detailed massive investments by gulf countries to build infrastructure to bypass Hormuz starting decades ago with the current situation accelerating it all. It is only your obtuseness/ego which is refusing to accept plain facts. Reminds me of a quote by Poe - "Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
  - don_esteban 6mo ago
    You have shown nothing to disprove my original point, just throwing irrelevant or wrong statements at the wall. Massive investments by gulf countries to build infrastructure to bypass Hormuz starting decades ago ... and still nothing much to show up for that. The math is simple: despite those massive long term investments, the total capacity to bypass Hormuz is still a small fraction of what usually went through there. You provided only hand-wawing when pressed that it will take many years to raise that bypass capacity. To say nothing about extreme vulnerability of those pipelines and their pumping stations ... the only solution is peace in the region, and not 'peace through strength' - we are witnessing now where that leads to. It is incredible how well your last statement fits you.
    - rramadass 6mo ago
      Your comments take the cake for obtuseness, lack of comprehension and lack of reasoning. You are just engaging in silly echolalia. I had provided many sources to show how things are and how they are developing. The sources to do with infrastructure even shows which all countries (there are two) had been bypassing Hormuz for a while now with their alternative pipelines. It also showed the level of investments going on to accelerate their developments. And yet you are engaging in childish "nah, nah, nah" behaviour. I can only shake my head bemusedly being reminded of the truism of Einstein's quote - "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".

don_esteban 6mo ago

I bow to your grand understanding of Oil Economy, Global Geopolitics, Military Matters etc. Just somehow can't fathom how (with all your superior understanding) you can utter this nonsense: Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. If you had not noticed, the oil and gas (and fertilizer, and aluminium, and helium) are still barely dripping, not flowing. And the end does not really appear in sight. The damage is definitively not managed and stabilized. My original point was that UAE raising their production capacity is irrelevant as long as Hormuz is not open, as the bypass pipeline is of limited capacity. The only relevant thing you were able to say (but not substantiate) is that surely UEA will be able to build a parallel pipeline in 2 years. Time will tell.

rramadass 6mo ago
Again, zero understanding of what i had written. The "were" in Any collateral damage to world/oil economy etc. were managed and stabilized. refers to past ME conflicts and how eventually they were all managed and stabilized. If you cannot comprehend basic English nothing can be done. As regards the current conflict, it is still ongoing and so the situation is in flux. But what can be said is that the effects so far have been muted than what was anticipated. Here is a detailed analysis; but the nuances need some thought which might be beyond you - The Weirdest Aspect of the Iran War That Has Oil Experts Scratching Their Heads - https://medium.com/newsarticulated/the-weirdest-aspect-of-the-iran-war-that-has-oil-experts-scratching-their-heads-b8b3c8a2fc53 https://medium.com/newsarticulated/the-weirdest-aspect-of-th... Your original point (if there was any) had been shown to be clueless with simple math (ADCOP capacity as a percentage of OPEC cap) and geography (bypassing Hormuz). The previously linked articles detailed massive investments by gulf countries to build infrastructure to bypass Hormuz starting decades ago with the current situation accelerating it all. It is only your obtuseness/ego which is refusing to accept plain facts. Reminds me of a quote by Poe - "Stupidity is a talent for misconception."
- don_esteban 6mo ago
  You have shown nothing to disprove my original point, just throwing irrelevant or wrong statements at the wall. Massive investments by gulf countries to build infrastructure to bypass Hormuz starting decades ago ... and still nothing much to show up for that. The math is simple: despite those massive long term investments, the total capacity to bypass Hormuz is still a small fraction of what usually went through there. You provided only hand-wawing when pressed that it will take many years to raise that bypass capacity. To say nothing about extreme vulnerability of those pipelines and their pumping stations ... the only solution is peace in the region, and not 'peace through strength' - we are witnessing now where that leads to. It is incredible how well your last statement fits you.
  - rramadass 6mo ago
    Your comments take the cake for obtuseness, lack of comprehension and lack of reasoning. You are just engaging in silly echolalia. I had provided many sources to show how things are and how they are developing. The sources to do with infrastructure even shows which all countries (there are two) had been bypassing Hormuz for a while now with their alternative pipelines. It also showed the level of investments going on to accelerate their developments. And yet you are engaging in childish "nah, nah, nah" behaviour. I can only shake my head bemusedly being reminded of the truism of Einstein's quote - "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe".