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How is this not a 1A violation?

ButlerianJihad 5mo ago
Because you also cannot counsel anyone on how to rob a house, or steal a car, or commit arson. You can teach them how to start a fire, and fire safety rules for the home, and you can teach them how to secure their cars and point out common vulnerabilities, but you can't actually counsel people on how to commit a crime or do something illegal. Well, you can and I guess that is your "free speech" but the judge is also going to show you the schedule of fines and penalties.
- dylan604 5mo ago
  yet there are plenty of sites with written or video instructions on how to pick a lock.
  - ButlerianJihad 5mo ago
    Picking a lock is not necessarily illegal. You could be a locksmith in training; you could be picking your own locks. You could be just in a lab or a classroom or a manufacturer that does this stuff.
    - Kim_Bruning 5mo ago
      You could even be a lawyer! https://www.youtube.com/@lockpickinglawyer https://www.youtube.com/@lockpickinglawyer
      - ButlerianJihad 5mo ago
        He even sells all the necessary tools to assemble a burglary kit. I feel like his channel is some psyop honeypot to get all the criminals with Dunning-Kruger to buy his tools and then Google calls the cops before they can even jimmy a lock. The catch with the LPL is that a lot of skill and experience also goes into picking locks. He does it reliably and quickly and efficiently because he knows how. If some goober tried to replicate his success wearing a balaclava at 3am, it may prove a bit more thorny a problem.
        Kim_Bruning 5mo ago
        Or, you buy the kit because picking locks is a fun puzzle? Very hacker-adjacent. It's not necessarily illegal, after all.
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- hellojesus 5mo ago
  Sure. But that means you can't make it illegal for a site to show you what a VPN is, how to use it, and explain that one shouldn't use it to circumvent a law but could, right?
mmh0000 5mo ago
It very likely is, but someone is going to have to pay lawyers tons of money and wait for years for it to go through the courts to stop it.
- rootusrootus 5mo ago
  Time to go chuck a few bucks at the EFF...

Because you also cannot counsel anyone on how to rob a house, or steal a car, or commit arson. You can teach them how to start a fire, and fire safety rules for the home, and you can teach them how to secure their cars and point out common vulnerabilities, but you can't actually counsel people on how to commit a crime or do something illegal. Well, you can and I guess that is your "free speech" but the judge is also going to show you the schedule of fines and penalties.

dylan604 5mo ago
yet there are plenty of sites with written or video instructions on how to pick a lock.
- ButlerianJihad 5mo ago
  Picking a lock is not necessarily illegal. You could be a locksmith in training; you could be picking your own locks. You could be just in a lab or a classroom or a manufacturer that does this stuff.
  - Kim_Bruning 5mo ago
    You could even be a lawyer! https://www.youtube.com/@lockpickinglawyer https://www.youtube.com/@lockpickinglawyer
    - ButlerianJihad 5mo ago
      He even sells all the necessary tools to assemble a burglary kit. I feel like his channel is some psyop honeypot to get all the criminals with Dunning-Kruger to buy his tools and then Google calls the cops before they can even jimmy a lock. The catch with the LPL is that a lot of skill and experience also goes into picking locks. He does it reliably and quickly and efficiently because he knows how. If some goober tried to replicate his success wearing a balaclava at 3am, it may prove a bit more thorny a problem.
      - Kim_Bruning 5mo ago
        Or, you buy the kit because picking locks is a fun puzzle? Very hacker-adjacent. It's not necessarily illegal, after all.
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hellojesus 5mo ago
Sure. But that means you can't make it illegal for a site to show you what a VPN is, how to use it, and explain that one shouldn't use it to circumvent a law but could, right?

mmh0000 5mo ago

It very likely is, but someone is going to have to pay lawyers tons of money and wait for years for it to go through the courts to stop it.

rootusrootus 5mo ago
Time to go chuck a few bucks at the EFF...