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The whole structure has changed. We are not even in the web 2.0 anymore and regressed to a client-server model where what we see is dictated from central platfo

The whole structure has changed. We are not even in the web 2.0 anymore and regressed to a client-server model where what we see is dictated from central platforms with little interaction between actual users. This was not a natural evolution of the web but the consequence of low-tech people accessing the web passively via a tiny touchscreen.

sandy_coyote 6mo ago
Tragedy of the Commons. It was around 2012 when my reactionary boomer relatives started trying to friend me on Facebook, wondering what the kids were all talking about.
packetlost 6mo ago
There are pockets of this on the internet, but you really have to go out of your way to find it
pseudalopex 6mo ago
The central platforms began before smart phones were common.
- snek_case 6mo ago
  Yeah but they weren't as toxic. I was an early YouTube user... The platform used to have no ads, can you imagine?
  - brokenmachine 6mo ago
    Adblock bro. The day I can't block ads is the last day I use youtube.
  - pseudalopex 6mo ago
    Facebook planned ads always. And YouTube probably. Ads made engagement their 1 goal. This caused most of their bad parts. Not smart phones.
creamynebula 6mo ago
More like a consequence of capitalism, as big tech companies used their massive capital to instrumentalize and develop knowledge to keep mostly everyone dependent and addicted to their systems. Due to the way capitalism work, when a push back against it through public policies was staged, they bought their way out of regulation of their toxic platforms and were allowed to retain their monopolies.
- scoofy 6mo ago
  Capitalism as unbridled greed is a bad meme. Sweden is a capitalist country. Germany is a capitalist country. In the US, we are moving from a high-trust society to a low-trust society, which is why the effects of capitalism are moving from a rising tide lifting all boats to a zero-sum game where my success means your suffering.

sandy_coyote 6mo ago

Tragedy of the Commons. It was around 2012 when my reactionary boomer relatives started trying to friend me on Facebook, wondering what the kids were all talking about.

packetlost 6mo ago

There are pockets of this on the internet, but you really have to go out of your way to find it

pseudalopex 6mo ago

The central platforms began before smart phones were common.

snek_case 6mo ago
Yeah but they weren't as toxic. I was an early YouTube user... The platform used to have no ads, can you imagine?
- brokenmachine 6mo ago
  Adblock bro. The day I can't block ads is the last day I use youtube.
- pseudalopex 6mo ago
  Facebook planned ads always. And YouTube probably. Ads made engagement their 1 goal. This caused most of their bad parts. Not smart phones.

creamynebula 6mo ago

More like a consequence of capitalism, as big tech companies used their massive capital to instrumentalize and develop knowledge to keep mostly everyone dependent and addicted to their systems. Due to the way capitalism work, when a push back against it through public policies was staged, they bought their way out of regulation of their toxic platforms and were allowed to retain their monopolies.

scoofy 6mo ago
Capitalism as unbridled greed is a bad meme. Sweden is a capitalist country. Germany is a capitalist country. In the US, we are moving from a high-trust society to a low-trust society, which is why the effects of capitalism are moving from a rising tide lifting all boats to a zero-sum game where my success means your suffering.