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Yes, that is what I mean. The issue with communism is if it never happened for real you can imagine all sorts of good amazing things from it with 0 pushback. L

Yes, that is what I mean. The issue with communism is if it never happened for real you can imagine all sorts of good amazing things from it with 0 pushback. Look atleast at the states calming to be communist. Would you rather live in Soviet or Western Europe? Ask the balts and poles... btw Sweden is not socialist

dmos62 5mo ago
Why is that an issue? Would you like discourse to be less grounded in ideals? Or is it that these particular ideals are a harm disguised as benefit?
- Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
  ? Because then you can just make shit up to put it bluntly.
  - mghackerlady 5mo ago
    any idea anyones ever had comes down to that. Sometimes they're right, sometimes they're wrong, and sometimes they need to be refined
    - Scroll_Swe 5mo ago
      But we can see what the best systems already are... Where do people want to live? - western/nordic europe, japan, singapore, usa, canada